> I started Linux just for fun. I am more interested on something that is not
> common.
>
> I agree that we cannot just claim that Linux is better that anything else
> (especially, MS). It's good to here that someone is close to the DECS
> secretary. And I do agree that we should start from the grass roots.
>
agree. amen. grass roots i really the key. but, i forsee that
secretary/senator roco would say that "who would train them?" i fear that
they may even be a shortage of people who could train the faculty for
linux. there are some schools like the ateneo would already have public
school programs for teachers in bio, physics, chem and math. why not add
a computer science thing and focus on computer science concepts while
teaching them with linux.
is there are CHED-COE for CS? if so, the CHED-COE CS grantees must place
open source in their courseware because they are teaching these public
school teachers. i would be good if we could start from here. if CHED is
will to grant the ateneo, i think school will be happy to teach open
source and comp sci to these teachers.
also as members of PLUG, most of us have real life work. however, it would
be good kung may outreach program tayo or something. however, i feel that
is very hard to mobilize a behemoth such as plug. i can mobilize
ce-gnu-lug for this. however, plug seems to be very difficult. a program
like "open source awareness sessions for public school teachers" and
"using open source for teaching". most PLUG members maybe unable to teach
but i am sure you guys can help develop modules, exercises, courseware and
the like.
next. knowing the government they will try this out with the science high
schools first. however, i most for something more radical and make it all
government high schools with CS curricula. (there are a number of these)
a pilot can be done in metro manila or somewhere with a big open source
movement. the pilot school must not be science high school for the very
reason that science high school are too spoiled na. get a regular memorial
high school somewhere out there and try it out.
> Once, when I went to our province I introduced Linux to one of my friends (a
> teacher in a AMA). He was hesitant because of the learning curve and other
> 'tsismis' about Linux. I think it is about perception towards linux.
>
tsismis == Fear Uncertainty and Deception (FUD). it is the goal as
advocates to rid the world of FUD and not add to it. therefore, it is
important not to give blank statements...linux is just better because this
will just add to the FUD.
> Right now, I am using Linux with NT domain. Personally, I think Linux cannot
> address all the problems in computers, but combining it with other systems
> we can come up with better solutions. It's just that, other software
> companies are pushing for their exclusive products.
>
well, i am not advocating for the erradication of all other solutions
immedietely. i believe that the world deserves good software and that what
ever works best must be used. however, i hate companies that market
expensive and non-performing products which bashing others. this is
predatory tactics and is just evil.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian C. Sison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] Linux in Philippine Education
>
>
>
> I believe you are right, we must state our case. But we musn't do it by
> simple saying "microsoft sucks, try linux.."
>
> There's been a lot of headway in linux for education, take a look at
>
> http://www.seul.org/edu
>
> We can state our case as a group, provide an action plan and with the help
> of "edwin linux fan" have an audience with the secretary of education.
> any thoughts?
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Edwin Linux Fan wrote:
>
> > PLUGgers, time to state our case!
> > It just so happens I can get a line directly to the think tank of our new
> DECS
> > Secretary (Department of Education), yes Sen. Raul Roco. They are in
> > brainstorming mode.
> >
> > Now is the time for us to see if our two cents can make the difference in
> > Philippine society.
> >
> > I propose that:
> >
> > "The Linux Operating System and applications become standard issue for
> > ALL Government Schools for the following reasons:"
> > (this is where all of us PLUGgers show our worth...)
> > (I will collate everything for all of you later)
> >
> > 1) Linux is FREE which saves the government millions of dollars!
> >
> > 2) We the Filipinos respect IPR, as in piracy is stealing, as in show
> students
> > the example by using licensed software (in this case, GPL).
> >
> > 3) Use of Linux is GUILT FREE. Do not encourage stealing in any form.
> >
> > 4) Linux is Virus resistant. (less downtime)
> >
> > 5) Linux is more reliable. (less downtime)
> >
> > 6) StarOffice files are Compatible with MS-OFFICE files.
> >
> > 7) StarOffice has OTHER tools not available in MS-OFFICE.
> >
> > 8) Use of Mandrake Linux 7.1 and above with ReiserFS is perfect for
> schools
> > who cannot afford UPSs where brownouts can cause data corruption and we
> > avoid FSCKs.
> >
> > 9) Other countries like Mexico, Thailand and other countries are doing
> it.
> >
> > 10) C is now the beginner's language, please stop using that stupid old
> > Borland Turbo C (circa 1988?) since it is PIRATED, it's OBSOLETE and stuck
>
> > in the old MS-DOS world. C as it is included in Linux is always the
> > PRODUCTION VERSION, so students actually learn USEFUL, CURRENT
> > technology, thus starting with the correct foot.
> >
> > 11) APPLICATIONS: Linux distros are in themselves complete and interested
> > students can learn a great many things about WEBSERVERS, SQL
> > DATABASES (drop dBASE and foxBASE please)
> >
> > ....... guys, I'm tired, I need sleep. Please continue for me and in a few
> days
> > we'll get a nice enough collection to submit to the DECS.
> >
> >
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