Quoting Muddy Banks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> It might as well be called "linux newbie admins/developers" since
> that, up to recently, is what your typical Linux user was/is.

Again:  Do they have corporate IT / MIS departments to go to?  If so,
they should.  If not, then they _are now sysadmins_.  I find amusing the
pretense that they aren't.

Given a choice between helping someone willing to learn about his system
and someone who "just wants to play MP3s" and refuses to learn, I'll do
the former, every time.  It's a great deal more gratifying, for many
reasons including the knowledge that the user won't be back with an
almost identical question a few minutes later.  Your mileage may differ.

> No that your efforts go unappreciated, but do you automatically try to
> solve problems by running the shell or do you look for a friendlier
> GUI approach to the problem?

I collect rhetorical questions as a hobby.  Thank you for the
contribution.  

I'm also enough of a spoilsport to answer them:  I solve problems
through whatever means gives the most reliable, universal results.  That
often entails a preference for portable, simple tools that give
meaningful and deterministic feedback, and that can be relied upon to be
present across a very wide range of systems.  But you knew that before
you asked, right?

> Shouldn't there be a forum for people who are interested in using the
> Linux but have absolutely no interest in 99% of the questions in the
> newbie list but may be interested other aspects of the OS?

You seem to have a great deal of energy and enthusiasm:  What's stopping
you from creating and staffing such a forum?

-- 
Cheers,                                      "Reality is not optional."
Rick Moen                                             -- Thomas Sowell
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