If I would be building PC now, for similar usage patterns. I would definitely go AMD Ryzen route + fanless low end MSI Nvidia GT 1030 cards for about $70.
AMD just dropped their Ryzen CPU prices, so that should help.... If you chose go the Intel CPU route, you will not need to buy graphics card. What you save on graphics will most likely be spent on more expensive motherboard. Though Intel Linux support is second to none. Their graphics just works as long as you do not buy their latest CPUs for the first half year. So, I'd forget about Coffee Lake untill about May-ish. Hope it helps, T On Feb 1, 2018 8:16 PM, "Jason Barnett" <jason.barnet...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think only AMD's mobile CPUs have integrated graphics. I know my Ryzen 7 > desktop does NOT have integrated graphics. AMD has a new open source > driver AMDGPU that performs quite well under Linux. I typically build my > own systems, but bought a prebuilt one because it had good parts and I > could not buy half the parts for the cost of a complete system. > The Ryzen processors are an excellent value, perform quite well and the > motherboards are reasonably priced. I can't say the same for Intel > CPUs/motherboards. > The most expensive part of the build will likely be RAM. DDR4 is still a > bit pricey. I have 8GB and it has been sufficient for my use. I may add > more in a couple of years when the prices come down a bit. > > While shopping, you can use this for comparison on prices: > This is what I bought for ~$550 after multiple discounts were applied ($780 > before discounts), 6 months ago: > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W5J5XJJ/ref=oh_aui_ > detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > > If you are planning on buying from Amazon, I recommend using the website > camelcamelcamel.com to see the price history for the items you are looking > for. Here is the ccc for the system I bought, the price would swing from > $1170 to $780 in a matter of days. > https://camelcamelcamel.com/iBUYPOWER-AM3101EA-Desktop- > Gaming-8-Core/product/B06W5J5XJJ > > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote: > > > First, let me make it clear that when it comes to CPUs, motherboards > > and RAMI am hopelessly out of date. I was out of date four years ago > > when I bought my laptop - I just selected component options based on the > > price. I had no idea what any of the features of the CPU actually did. > > > > So now I need to buy a CPU, motherboard and RAM for the new desktop > > computer that I am going to build. From web sites I see that you can pay > > up to a couple thousand dollars for a CPU, so for my first step in the > > decision making process I drew a line at ~$300 for the CPU. Intel/AMD > > are going to have to find someone else foolish enough to pay thousands > > of dollars for a CPU. > > > > My current desktop has an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+ on an ASUS > > M2NPV-VM motherboard with nVidia video. It is pathetically slow. My > > laptop has an Intel Core i7-4800 MQ CPU @ 2.7GHz. It is fast enough, > > but I'd like the new desktop to have something faster, if only to stave > > off obsolescence. > > > > I'm not averse to AMD, but don't their CPUs now come with video built > > in, and haven't there been some driver issues with Linux? > > > > And speaking of video, my current monitor will do 1920x1080 and the > > ancient nVIDIA on the ASUS motherboard drives it fine. But some day 4K > > will no longer be cutting edge, so planning ahead for it might be a > > good idea. > > > > Most of what the desktop does is stream internet radio all day long and > > play over the air tv or movies at night. This is trivial work, but > > sometimes I rip and encode a Blu-ray movie. On the faster laptop this > > will take 2-4 hours. I tried it once on the current desktop and it took > > a day and a half. I use Handbrake for this stuff and while it is > > working it takes over 90% of the CPU. So I can justify a reasonably > > fast processor. > > > > I asked DuckDuckGo what kind of CPU to get and was presented with a > > bewildering array of choices. There's i3, 15 and i7, there are cores > > and threads, there are different GHz ratings, not to mention Kaby Lake, > > Skylake and even Coffee Lake. (Coffee Lake? So if I get one of these I > > can just stick a spigot in the case and throw away my coffee maker?) > > > > I need a really, really dumbed down explanation, dumber than I have > > found on the net. > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
