For all the bias - I have noticed overwhelming number of basic distro related fundamental issues related to: a) Slackware b) unusual networking setups - which will keep continue giving c) ubuntu issues related from ancient installs which went through multiple distribution and even HW updates - accumulating ancient, no longer appropriate stuff/crud/libraries/unmaintained application versions
To your note - I keep hearing a lot about some stuff - to the point of not turning radio/news on in the mornings anymore. I agree that it is an indication of something being terribly broken. It ain't Ubuntu though! Tomas On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 06:59 -0700, Ben Koenig wrote: > Am I the only one who has noticed the overwhelming number of technical > questions asked by Ubuntu users. > > I understand that Devs and Engineers have their opinions about what > works and what does not, but there is a sense of "did it actually > work". > > 1) If you want to know how many people use Ubuntu, count the number of > people talking about it. > 2) If you want to know how effective Ubuntu is, count the number of > problems people have > > Ubuntu is a platform that generates a LOT of bad publicity. People > start using by recommendation, and as someone who has done tech > support for ubuntu ends users in an official capacity, I can > confidently say that it's a shit distro. > This is one of those discussions that can't occur over email. We need > to start having these discussions in person and share knowledge in a > more succinct way. I don't need a CS degree to look at the PLUG list > and realize that Ubuntu is causing people problems! > > There is also an amount of "data driven" decision making to be made > here. The sad fact is that there is no data for the rate of Linux > adoption overall, so Ubuntu steps in to make claims such as this one > on their website: > > "Leading OS foir PCs, IOT, Servers, and the Cloud" ? > > Really? In what universe is Ubuntu the de facto standard for all > computing? That claim is a bold-faced lie and its up on their fucking > website. Right now. You tell me how popular ubuntu "deserves" to be. > > > I'm sick of their shit and unlike Canonical, I ACTUALLY believe in > transparency - So I'm signing this message with my first AND last > name: > -Ben Koenig > > > P.S. don't need to sign with a PGP key, you can find me in the > Columbia Tech Center if you want to verify my identity. You know, real > life with real facts. > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 5:44 PM Thomas Groman <tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net> > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 28 May 2019 14:48:53 -0700 > > Darren Couch <dco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I've gone back and forth with distros for a long time. Ubuntu works > > > fine for me - I don't have the rolling release blues like I often got > > > with Arch, or the ancient tools like I did with Debian or CentOS. > > > I like deb over rpm based solely on what I got used to. > > > If I need the bleeding edge of something odds are there is a PPA out > > > there making it happen. > > > Started in Ubuntu in the 5.x era. Running 19.04 at home at the > > > moment. Anymore I don't like having to spend ages setting up a > > > development box. I want mostly stable with the toolchains I need. > > > Ubuntu fits the bill for me. > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:02 AM Paul Heinlein <heinl...@madboa.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 May 2019, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is this about? Are you honestly asking question about someone > > > > > elses opinion? Are you willing to accept the answers? What ever > > > > > they may be? > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, the answer to your question - what is the best Linux > > > > > distro - is 42. > > > > > > > > > > 42 - Because it depends on what is the the question and who is > > > > > asking it. > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > Draw up your list of requirements, which might include > > > > > > > > * stability > > > > * support for a certain application > > > > * bleeding-edge software > > > > * scalable administration > > > > * good desktop interface > > > > * support for specific or niche hardware > > > > * minimal disk/RAM footprint > > > > * commercial technical support > > > > * ease of installation > > > > * ease of administration > > > > > > > > and then locate a distribution that fits your requirements. I find > > > > it difficult to believe that after 25 years of Linux distribution > > > > releases people are still looking for one distribution that will > > > > check all those boxes (as well as others I didn't list). None is > > > > perfect; each pursues certain priorities at the expense of others. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Heinlein > > > > heinl...@madboa.com > > > > 45°38' N, 122°6' W_______________________________________________ > > > > PLUG mailing list > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not just run Debian/Devuan Testing? > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
