I consider statements like that to be abusive. And that's not hyperbole, it's 
personal experience but you probably don't have the empathy required to see 
that.

You could have stayed out of it, but in true gmail user form you had to be an 
asshole. Well done!
-Ben

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On Tuesday, September 7th, 2021 at 9:25 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I see some opportunities for those involved in anger management counseling.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 8:51 PM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Man, based on the direct email I just got he really took issue with the 
>> whole complacency thing. Such is life these days. Hopefully Mike realizes 
>> that he has the option to block individual email addresses instead of 
>> unsubscribing from the entire list.
>>
>> Better yet, he can get his sad sorry ass off gmail. After 2 fucked up 
>> elections and massive issues with medical misinformation I have zero respect 
>> for people who can't acknowledge how those platforms work and do the right 
>> thing. I'm frankly fed up with people who use such platforms acting like 
>> they have some sort of moral high ground. Fuck Google and the users who rely 
>> on it.
>>
>>>> I put more effort than people realize into making sure my facts are 
>>>> accurate and that my actions are forward thinking.
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Tuesday, September 7th, 2021 at 6:49 PM, Mike C. <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please get your fucking facts straight before you start your name calling 
>>> eliist bullshit. I didn't just share my complacency to the world asshole.
>>>
>>> I tried to understand the mostly vague criticisms in an honest effort to 
>>> offer some suggestions.
>>>
>>> What fucking good is it if I were to offer the feedback to any fucking 
>>> product or service the form for "less than useless".
>>>
>>> FUCK YOU!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 6:35 PM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've noticed that complacent people are very determined to share their 
>>>> complacency with the world.
>>>>
>>>> Just an observation. Wandering missives about how none of this matters to 
>>>> YOUR life are neither constructive nor polite.
>>>>
>>>> I have some old code from a search "engine" I wrote. Going to dig it up 
>>>> tonight and see if I can set up a little experiment...
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to explore meaningless opinions in the meantime.
>>>> -Ben
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> On Sep 7, 2021, 6:05 PM, Mike C. < [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> "but i suspect that keith's dislike of ads, homonym results, ... are widely
>>>> shared."
>>>> I almost exclusively use Google search and I don't get "Pages and pages of
>>>> ads."
>>>> I wouldn't say I've never run into the homonym issue but it's not gotten to
>>>> the point of frustration to call a search engine "worse than useless".
>>>> There's plenty to criticize Google for, but I've moved away from the tech
>>>> field and the things that I use tech for and the ways that I interact w.
>>>> tech Google's stuff including Android, Google Fi, etc works really well for
>>>> my day to day life.
>>>> If I were a journalist, activist, etc, I wouldn't use it and don't
>>>> recommend it to those types of people.
>>>> About the only things tech I pay attention to anymore are privacy &
>>>> security stuff.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 5:37 PM Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > You seem to have some very personal and unique search engine issues
>>>>> > and preferences that I dare say many other people don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> well, for criterion X, i am confident there are populations on both
>>>>> sides.
>>>>>
>>>>> but i suspect that keith's dislike of ads, homonym results, ... are
>>>>> widely shared.
>>>>>
>>>>> duckduckgo is somewhat better; and i especially like that i can
>>>>> right-click a search result and get the correct url, not a gobble
>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>
>>>>> and i run a tor relay, more as a social good. i rarely use tor.
>>>>>
>>>>> randy
>>>>>

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