On Jun 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Sasha Pachev <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't need your stories about Mother Russia, either, every email message >> you concoct has some relation to it > > Is that your way of saying you have lost this argument? :-) No. > Have you ever lived in a culture that did not believe the American > values? When you construct your arguments do you realize that America > - even though a great country to which I chose to move - represents > only a small fraction of the world? Can you imagine for a second that > there might be people in the world, in fact being in majority, that do > not take for granted what you take for granted? Well, yes, I have. I was in both Afghanistan and Iraq for extended periods as a cavalry scout (19D) attached to both the 1st Cav and the 75th Rangers. I can do more than imagine it, believe me. > If you were there, what are the > chances that you would have refused or even just sabotaged the order? > > So I decided to call your bluff on that example. It's not a bluff - I have disobeyed a direct order based on moral objections. It wasn't an order to execute a group of civilians - it was an order to basically turn the other way while an atrocity happened. Myself and two others decided to intervene anyway. It was only because of a great platoon sergeant and an understanding CO that I wasn't court martialed, or even received an Article 15. If you want more details, you can contact me off-list. I think people willing to buck authority and societal pressure are a lot more common than you believe. Your world view seems to be corrupted, rather than enlightened, by your family's history in Russia. I'd take a long, hard look at that. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
