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(I'm not sure anyone would have an interest in any of this, but thought I
would post it anyway - in case someone does find it interesting. And by
the way, please excuse the typos in my previous posts. I've mentioned this
before - that ever since my brain surgery I have this problem of seeing
things correctly as I write them but when I read it later I see typos,
reversals, misspellings that I would never ordinarily make, etc. I can
overcome this disability by sending everything to me and reading it again
before I post it, but why bother?... Hank)
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From: "(SYSOP)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You have a lot of information and everyone's memory seems to be better than
mine. I was at Mt Weather and the White House in 59 adn 60. I was also at the
Pentagon when I returned from a 3 year tour in France. But when there I worked
as a crypto operator with latest cryptographic voice security and some physical
security for the Chiefs of Staff in the War Room. I tried to get back into the
White House and even visited our office at State but was told there was nothing
there for me at that time but there might be later on. After trying to also get
into helicopter school and not being accepted after going there for testing
(because of corrected vision), I continued on at the Pentagon until my father
offered me a position in his real estate firm and I took my discharge. That was
probably a good choice because there was no money in the military in those days
except the G.I. Bill which got me through school and with Vietnam coming and
actually there were advisors there at the time I was at the Pentagon which is
why they sent the request for helicopter pilots out to everyone (another good
thing for me not to pass the testing) [g]. But I thought maybe Lovelace was
this sgt I knew in the army pistol club but I guess I was wrong. --- Good luck
with your hunt for information.
One more thing, as to what I knew. I don't think I was much different than
anyone else. No one knew anything outside their own work. Everything was
compartmentalized. We knew our work and that was the extent of it. We were
discouraged from inquiring about anything else. It was all "need to know" and
what we talked about between us was survival in case of a nuclear attack and if
we would stay or go to our families and most of us would have gone AWOL to be
with our families -- and secondly we discussed football, baseball and pizza and
poker parties. Sorry (grin). That is all I remember about the actually
interaction between us at work.
--- and doing our job, of course.
Hank
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Frank Warren wrote:
> Mornin' Hank,
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What was that? Most of the people I knew are now deceased. I was one of the
> youngest and I'm 67. I don't remember Lovekin.
>
> Hank
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lovekin is 66. The other WHASA member who has responded is "Tony Adamowicz,"
> a well known race car driver. (Although he "hasn't" answered my last e-mail
> with the implication of Eisenhower's involvement with the "UFO Phenomenon")
> Not about his age, but I believe it's very close to yours and Lovekin's.
>
> The gist of my inquiries is this--In a book written by Dr. Steven Greer, in
> 1999, he in part writes:
>
> "Major SL, a respected lawyer who was an Army cryptographer
> in the Pentagon from 1959-61. He he was shown samples of
> debris from the crash of an ET craft in New Mexico in the
> late 1940's, and it was demonstrated to him the
> extraordinary properties of the material. He saw the ET
> writing on the debris and was told it was being studied by
> Army cryptographers, but they had not (in 1959) broken the
> code. He also had confirmed to him then President
> Eisenhower's interest in the subject, that he knew of the
> subject, but that he was being left out of substantial
> information dealing with ET technology programs. Major SL
> [Lovekin] had a top-secret clearance and continues to
> possess a top secret clearance as an Army reserve today."
>
> In a more recent interview:
>
> *July 21, 2003 Interview of Stephen (Steven) Lovekin and
> Grant Cameron conducted by phone.*
>
> GC: Hello. I am a researcher who runs the presidential UFO
> website, and I had a couple of short questions. I was
> wondering if you could answer them? I am doing a story in
> connection with Mount Weather and UFOs, and I believe you
> described UFOs and Mount Weather. Can you tell me what the
> connection was?
>
> Lovekin: There was no connection. The only thing is that I
> had been there. I spent some time there.
>
> GC: On one of the tapes you had something to the effect that
> they were tracking them from there.
>
> Lovekin: Well that seemed to be the case. I certainly didn't
> see any evidence to that effect. There was talk about it. Yes.
>
> GC: OK, I guess I just don't know where you got that.
> Someone had told you that?
>
> Lovekin: Someone told me that -- yes.
>
> GC: You were there one time?
>
> Lovekin: I was there probably a dozen times.
>
> GC: With Signals Intelligence you are dealing with the
> President's communications and stuff like that?
>
> Lovekin: That is right.
>
> GC: The person that I was looking at was the guy who ran
> Mount Weather. This would be 1965. Did you have any contact
> with this person named Bourassa?
>
> Lovekin: No, I was there in 1960 and 1961.
>
> GC: And who was the military advisor that you were under
> Eisenhower?
>
> Lovekin: Ah...gees...Colonel...I'm trying to recall his
> name. I can't think of his name sorry. He was a Colonel.
>
> GC: He was a general military advisor, or he was with one of
> the services?
>
> Lovekin: He was the military advisor to the President.
> Colonel Schulz.
>
> GC: Some of them had an Air Force advisor, and an Army advisor.
>
> Lovekin: That's right.
>
> GC: Do you remember the guy that was under Kennedy? Did
> Kennedy know what was going on?
>
> Lovekin: He knew what was going on.
>
> GC: So Kennedy knew.
>
> Lovekin: Yes.
>
> GC: Even though he was a Democrat?
>
> Lovekin: Yes.
>
> GC: And Eisenhower. You never heard Eisenhower. You just
> heard people talking about Eisenhower knowing about this?
> You were never there when Eisenhower was talking about it?
>
> Lovekin: Yes I was.
>
> GC: Oh you were. I didn't know that part of the story.
>
> Lovekin: Yes.
>
> GC: When was this? At Mount Weather or...
>
> Lovekin: No, this was at Camp David.
>
> GC: And that was one occasion?
>
> Lovekin: Probably a couple occasions.
>
> GC: Can you tell me what the situation was? Was someone
> talking to him about
> sightings, or how did this subject come up?
>
> Lovekin: Well he was waiting for a phone call on one
> occasion, and he started doodling. That was one of his
> favorites.
>
> GC: I have seen some of his doodlings.
>
> Lovekin: (Laughs) Anyway, he was doodling UFOs. Anyway,
> somehow or other he got to taking about UFOs in 1952 shortly
> before he took office.
>
> GC: What was that?
>
> Lovekin: Those were the sightings in Washington DC.
>
> GC: I see, yes, over the capitol.
>
> Lovekin: Yes. But he was talking about some other things as
> well. He just kind of rambled on. There wasn't too much that
> was specific, but he did discuss it. It was a very very
> important concern of his. I think one of the things that he
> was concerned about was, we were going through a serious
> recession back then, and the government had to let go of a
> lot of its control to the military industrial complex. He
> was much concerned about that. It just wasn't something that
> the government could tackle at that moment. Didn't want to
> tackle I guess would be a better way of putting it. But yes,
> he was very much into it. He believed in them. He realized
> the concern. He realized the concern for the American
> people, and I think that he honestly wanted to do something
> that was positive, but somehow or other his hands were tied.
> I am not sure why, but I have an idea.
>
> We would sit around with him when we were at Camp David, and
> he knew who each and every one of us by name. That was the
> great thing about being under him. I was just a sergeant at
> the time. I was still privy to some stuff that some people
> wouldn't be privy to.
>
> GC: I'm not sure about what Signal Intelligence deals
> with...I know communication, but Mount Weather had direct
> communication links to the White House. What would you be
> doing for Signal Intelligence?
>
> Lovekin: Well there were a number of places that the
> President would go in case of attack. Camp David was one,
> Fort Ritchie was another, there was a special area set aside
> for him and congressional leaders at Fort Ritchie, and then
> there was another one right by Fort Ritchie, which was known
> as concrete. That was the code name. Then there was another
> one in West Virginia at Martinsburg. Let's see. Then we know
> about the one in West Virginia at the Grand Hotel.
>
> GC: What was your particular job as a Sergeant.
>
> Lovekin: Well our job was to maintain the integrity of all
> the lines, to make sure they weren't tapped -- to make sure
> that whatever he said was either recorded or not recorded
> correctly.
>
> GC: And how many people would be in a group working around
> him to perform this job.
>
> Lovekin: Probably was many as 4 or 5. Sometimes there would
> be more, but that was generally the case. He felt
> comfortable with small groups and he was a great guy. He was
> terrific. I would have done anything for that man. He
> treated everyone with the utmost respect, and I think he was
> basically a man of integrity. He was a man who was very
> honest, which is a rare commodity. He would discuss his
> beliefs yes.
>
> GC: Why do you think that there is a cover-up -- why the
> President doesn't speak out about it? Like a lot of them say
> that their hands are tied. What's your gut feeling?
>
> Lovekin: Well because so much of the authority was given
> away to private firms.
>
> GC: Do you think that this was going on already in the
> Eisenhower administration?
>
> Lovekin: Yes I do. When he said the main thing we have to
> fear is the military industrial complex, he wasn't kidding,
> and he had the subject matter we are talking about in mind.
> He was quite explicit about that.
>
> I'm trying to corroborate his story (or not) with others such as yourself,
> that served with him at the same time. So far, Lovekin seem to be a man of
> good character and reputation, and has no motivation to lie about anything,
> and catch "public flack" for doing so.
>
> Did you ever hear or see anything "UFO related" while in WHASA? What do you
> make of Lovekin's claims?
>
> Cheers,
> Frank
>
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