Thank you England. <yawn> Just so you know - the VP is a lot like the Queen of England... she doesn't do much (Cheney is an exception). The VP's beliefs (or stance) do not make law nor do they necessarily dictate policy. If the VP's beliefs made law we can only imagine what Al Gore would have done to this country. LOL
----- Original Message ----- From: "creusa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:43 AM Subject: Re: Sarah Palin What on earth is WRONG with you all in the US? Have you all lost any understanding of moderation and commn sense? Is this how people from Planet Belch think? She is a fundamentalist extremist...and I find it highly amusing (if it were not so tragic) that those in this forum who dislike fundamental extremism in in other cultures is actually supporting it in your own. Are you going to tell me that someone who objects to abortion even in cases of rape or incest is balanced????? That believing that evolution doesn't happen is balanced and open minded enough to possibly run the country? And who knows much of anything about her stance on the handling of the economy, (kind of important right now...) capital punishment (I'll bet I can make a good guess at this one...) or oil exploration? How about international diplomacy or her bias concerning other countries? Where in God's name have you all left your good sense?? creusa On Sep 8, 6:42 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Libertarians Voting for the Republican Ticket?!?!?!?!?!? > > Something tells me Obama is in some serioous trouble now... > > How long before he dump Biden and BEGS Hillary to be his VP?!?!?!?!? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sep 7, 9:19 pm, "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Sarah Palinby Walter Block > > No one who has anything nice to say about Ron Paul can be all bad. Sarah > > Palin has said nice things about Ron Paul > > (seehere,here,here,hereandhere). Ergo, therefore, as a result, it cannot > > be denied, it logically follows, Sarah Palin cannot be all bad. That is, > > she cannot be all badno matter what elseshe is guilty of (within reason > > of course.) > > So, what are the criticisms of her? > > First and foremost, she is accused of not having enough experience. I > > admit it! She does not have enough experience. Enough experience, that > > is, to become emperor of the world. Yes, John McCain, Barack Obama and > > Joe Biden do seek this post of planetary domination, now held by George > > Bush. That is, these three show every evidence of wanting to continue > > the U.S. role as hegemon of the entire globe. Now, it may well be that > > Palin will in future be seduced into this sort of ambition. But, at > > least as ofright now, there is little or no evidence of it (apart from > > some pro-war sentiment). Of the four presidential and vice presidential > > candidates, her present experience shows theleastdesire to rule the > > world. So, her "lack of experience" is a good thing, not a bad one. > > Does she have enough "experience" to be president of a country with a > > limited government, and no aspiration to be world dictator? Of course > > she does. And, again, she hasmoreexperience in this regard than either > > McCain, Obama or Biden. She, alone of the four of them, has > > hadexecutiveexperience as the Governor of the great state of Alaska, > > while the other three have been whiling their way in a relatively > > unimportant institution, in this era of presidential power. So, don’t > > talk to me about experience, as a critique of this lady. > > Second, it is said that with five children, she has too many other > > obligations to take on the role of vice president. Give me a break. She > > can’t vote in the senate when there is a tie? C’mon! This charge > > emanates from left-wing feminists, of course. Suppose Hillary were to > > have had five children the ages of Sarah’s. Would the legions of her > > supporters be making this case with regard to Mrs. Clinton? To ask this > > is to answer it. In that case, Hillary’s ascendency would only serve as > > evidence that "You can have it all." The hypocrisy of these "feminists" > > stinks to the high heavens. They do not support the idea ofwomenbreaking > > through the so-called glass ceiling. Rather, they favorleft-wing > > socialist femalesbeing given positions of authority and responsibility. > > This is something very different. It is a rare occasion that these > > feminists have been caught with their contradictions so much in the > > public eye. All those sick and tired of these harridans ought to thank > > Sarah for this one boon alone. > > Third, a criticism made by some libertarians is that her adherence to > > our principles is only skin deep; she has raised some taxes, considered > > banning some books from libraries, engaged in public-private ventures > > regarding oil pipelines, she is altogether too friendly to US foreign > > aggression. Yes, yes, she is no libertarian, certainly not of the purist > > variety. She is no Ron Paul. But, a little context here, please. > > Compared to McCain, Obama and Biden, she is a veritable Murray N. > > Rothbard. What about matching her up against all the other 49 governors? > > Well, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana is not all bad as far as these things > > go, and there might be another half dozen of this breed, mainly in the > > poorly populated states west of the Mississippi, but surely Sarah Palin > > fits comfortably into this category. According tothis source, tax > > freedom day arrives earliest in Alaska, of all 50 states. Not too > > shabby, at least in this context. She favors drilling in theANWR, and > > that alone is worth the price of admission. > > Another critique emanating from this quarter is that even if Sarah isn’t > > all that bad in terms of libertarianism, at least compared to her peers, > > as soon as she goes to Washington D.C. as Vice President, she will "grow > > in office" and become more acceptable to socialists such as those who > > plague theNew York Times,Newsweek, NBC and the other major media > > outlets. Well, yes, I suppose, this could happen. But, again, let us not > > lose sight of context. This hasalreadytaken place for the likes of > > McCain, Obama and Biden, who have been located in the beltway for many, > > many years. And, yes, there are indeed "libertarian" think tanks now > > located inside the beltway whose adherence to this philosophy has, > > sadly, deteriorated in the last little while. But there is > > nonecessitythat this disease will afflict Sarah. Indeed, there are > > groups, organizations and people who serve as counterexamples, and > > illustrate the concept of free will. Exhibit "A" is of course Ron Paul. > > He has been a denizen of Washington D.C. for decades now, and shows no > > signs of yielding to this affliction. George Ayittey is as strong a > > supporter of the free society as he was when he first became a professor > > of economics at American University many years ago. Tom DiLorenzo is > > located near the beltway in Baltimore, and is second to none in his > > adherence of libertarianism. Then, too, there are a whole host of > > libertarians on the faculty of nearby George Mason University. The Mises > > Institute itself, bastion of liberty and world headquarters of the > > Austro-libertarian movement, was for a time located in the DC environs. > > They departed, but not at all out of fear of compromising with the > > principles of freedom. > > Now that we have dealt with the spurious criticisms, what are the > > benefits of the Palin candidacy? > > First and foremost, just sit back and relax for a moment, and consider > > this scenario. The McCain (ugh!) – Palin (whoop-di-do) ticket is elected > > in November. The duffer kicks the bucket after a heart attack in early > > 2009, and our girl is now President of these here United States. Who > > does she choose as Vice President? Why, a certain Congressman from > > Texas. I’m not at liberty to reveal his name at the present time, but I’ll > > give you a hint: he is widely known by both friends and enemies as "Dr. > > No." Double whoop-di-do, say I. No, quadruple. Unlikely? Yes. But > > politicallyimpossible? No. > > Did you notice how Sarah is widely referred to, when in formal mode? > > Yes, asMrs.Palin, notMs.Palin. Isn’t that wonderful? Doesn’t that really > > stick it to the socialist feminists? Yes, indeedy do. And, there is no > > group that more deserves such a come-uppance than they. They have long > > striven to stuff this horrid bit of nomenclature (seehere) down our > > collective throats, and, on all too many occasions have succeeded. It is > > time, it is long past time, that we jettison this insufferable > > politically correct attack on traditional gender distinction. > > She delivers a hugely deserved kick in the teeth to those limousine > > liberals who infest both east and west coasts of our country. I’m > > talking about the intellectual-academic-cultural "elites" who dismiss > > the rest of the populace as inhabiting "fly over" country. Here is a > > rifle toting, moose killing, basketball playing, beauty contest winning, > > charismatic and eloquent long happily married conservative hockey mom > > who has made something of herself in a very competitive field, who has > > not gone to finishing school at Harvard, Yale or Princeton. She does not > > revere the mainstream media; far from it. She is a breath of fresh air > > blowing in from our northernmost state. God bless her. > > Sarah has almost entirelypushedObama off television, and newspaper > > headlines. The timing of McCain’s announcement of her candidacy as Vice > > President could not have been better. It took focus off Obama’s windy, > > insufferable, socialist but, yes, eloquent, acceptance speech like no > > other announcement could have done. If that, alone, was Sarah’s only > > accomplishment, it would have almost been worth it. > > True confession time. Before Palin (BP), I was leaning toward Obama. I > > thought he was marginally less likely to drop a nuclear bomb on some > > hapless third world country than mad bomber McCain. I regarded, and > > still do, foreign policy as more important than domestic, given that > > "war is the health of the state." And, there was very little to choose > > between the Republocrats and the Demopublicans on economics. Socialism > > from both quarters (although I admit it, the prospect of Alan Dershowitz > > on the Supreme Court did give me pause for thought). But now, after > > Palin (AP), I am shifting my allegiance to the Republicans. Go, Sarah, > > go! But what about the libertarians? Don’t speak to me about the > > libertarians! The Barr-Root ticket is arguably less libertarian than > > Sarah Palin. Barr in particular has been a gigantic disappointment > > (seehereandhere). ... > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
