"and I find it highly amusing (if
it were not so tragic) that those in this forum who dislike
fundamental extremism in in other cultures is actually supporting it
in your own. "

Very well said, creusa. And rest assured, not ALL Americans have lost
their minds and plan on voting for this trollop (to borrow a favorite
term of McCain's.... gotta love those family values). Most of the ones
who are so excited over Palin are obviously thinking with the wrong
head.



On Sep 8, 6:43 am, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What on earth is WRONG with you all in the US? Have you all lost any
> understanding of moderation and commn sense? Is this how people from
> Planet Belch think?
>
> She is a fundamentalist extremist...and I find it highly amusing (if
> it were not so tragic) that those in this forum who dislike
> fundamental extremism in in other cultures is actually supporting it
> in your own.
>
> Are you going to tell me that someone who objects to abortion even in
> cases of rape or incest is balanced????? That believing that evolution
> doesn't happen is balanced and open minded enough to possibly run the
> country?
>
> And who knows much of anything about her stance on the handling of the
> economy, (kind of important right now...) capital punishment (I'll bet
> I can make a good guess at this one...) or oil exploration? How about
> international diplomacy or her bias concerning other countries?
>
> Where in God's name have you all left your good sense??
>
> creusa
>
> On Sep 8, 6:42 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Libertarians Voting for the Republican Ticket?!?!?!?!?!?
>
> > Something tells me Obama is in some serioous trouble now...
>
> > How long before he dump Biden and BEGS Hillary to be his VP?!?!?!?!?
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On Sep 7, 9:19 pm, "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Sarah Palinby Walter Block
> > > No one who has anything nice to say about Ron Paul can be all bad. Sarah 
> > > Palin has said nice things about Ron Paul 
> > > (seehere,here,here,hereandhere). Ergo, therefore, as a result, it cannot 
> > > be denied, it logically follows, Sarah Palin cannot be all bad. That is, 
> > > she cannot be all badno matter what elseshe is guilty of (within reason 
> > > of course.)
> > > So, what are the criticisms of her?
> > > First and foremost, she is accused of not having enough experience. I 
> > > admit it! She does not have enough experience. Enough experience, that 
> > > is, to become emperor of the world. Yes, John McCain, Barack Obama and 
> > > Joe Biden do seek this post of planetary domination, now held by George 
> > > Bush. That is, these three show every evidence of wanting to continue the 
> > > U.S. role as hegemon of the entire globe. Now, it may well be that Palin 
> > > will in future be seduced into this sort of ambition. But, at least as 
> > > ofright now, there is little or no evidence of it (apart from some 
> > > pro-war sentiment). Of the four presidential and vice presidential 
> > > candidates, her present experience shows theleastdesire to rule the 
> > > world. So, her "lack of experience" is a good thing, not a bad one.
> > > Does she have enough "experience" to be president of a country with a 
> > > limited government, and no aspiration to be world dictator? Of course she 
> > > does. And, again, she hasmoreexperience in this regard than either 
> > > McCain, Obama or Biden. She, alone of the four of them, has 
> > > hadexecutiveexperience as the Governor of the great state of Alaska, 
> > > while the other three have been whiling their way in a relatively 
> > > unimportant institution, in this era of presidential power. So, don’t 
> > > talk to me about experience, as a critique of this lady.
> > > Second, it is said that with five children, she has too many other 
> > > obligations to take on the role of vice president. Give me a break. She 
> > > can’t vote in the senate when there is a tie? C’mon! This charge emanates 
> > > from left-wing feminists, of course. Suppose Hillary were to have had 
> > > five children the ages of Sarah’s. Would the legions of her supporters be 
> > > making this case with regard to Mrs. Clinton? To ask this is to answer 
> > > it. In that case, Hillary’s ascendency would only serve as evidence that 
> > > "You can have it all." The hypocrisy of these "feminists" stinks to the 
> > > high heavens. They do not support the idea ofwomenbreaking through the 
> > > so-called glass ceiling. Rather, they favorleft-wing socialist 
> > > femalesbeing given positions of authority and responsibility. This is 
> > > something very different. It is a rare occasion that these feminists have 
> > > been caught with their contradictions so much in the public eye. All 
> > > those sick and tired of these harridans ought to thank Sarah for this one 
> > > boon alone.
> > > Third, a criticism made by some libertarians is that her adherence to our 
> > > principles is only skin deep; she has raised some taxes, considered 
> > > banning some books from libraries, engaged in public-private ventures 
> > > regarding oil pipelines, she is altogether too friendly to US foreign 
> > > aggression. Yes, yes, she is no libertarian, certainly not of the purist 
> > > variety. She is no Ron Paul. But, a little context here, please. Compared 
> > > to McCain, Obama and Biden, she is a veritable Murray N. Rothbard. What 
> > > about matching her up against all the other 49 governors? Well, Bobby 
> > > Jindal of Louisiana is not all bad as far as these things go, and there 
> > > might be another half dozen of this breed, mainly in the poorly populated 
> > > states west of the Mississippi, but surely Sarah Palin fits comfortably 
> > > into this category. According tothis source, tax freedom day arrives 
> > > earliest in Alaska, of all 50 states. Not too shabby, at least in this 
> > > context. She favors drilling in theANWR, and that alone is worth the 
> > > price of admission.
> > > Another critique emanating from this quarter is that even if Sarah isn’t 
> > > all that bad in terms of libertarianism, at least compared to her peers, 
> > > as soon as she goes to Washington D.C. as Vice President, she will "grow 
> > > in office" and become more acceptable to socialists such as those who 
> > > plague theNew York Times,Newsweek, NBC and the other major media outlets. 
> > > Well, yes, I suppose, this could happen. But, again, let us not lose 
> > > sight of context. This hasalreadytaken place for the likes of McCain, 
> > > Obama and Biden, who have been located in the beltway for many, many 
> > > years. And, yes, there are indeed "libertarian" think tanks now located 
> > > inside the beltway whose adherence to this philosophy has, sadly, 
> > > deteriorated in the last little while. But there is nonecessitythat this 
> > > disease will afflict Sarah. Indeed, there are groups, organizations and 
> > > people who serve as counterexamples, and illustrate the concept of free 
> > > will. Exhibit "A" is of course Ron Paul. He has been a denizen of 
> > > Washington D.C. for decades now, and shows no signs of yielding to this 
> > > affliction. George Ayittey is as strong a supporter of the free society 
> > > as he was when he first became a professor of economics at American 
> > > University many years ago. Tom DiLorenzo is located near the beltway in 
> > > Baltimore, and is second to none in his adherence of libertarianism. 
> > > Then, too, there are a whole host of libertarians on the faculty of 
> > > nearby George Mason University. The Mises Institute itself, bastion of 
> > > liberty and world headquarters of the Austro-libertarian movement, was 
> > > for a time located in the DC environs. They departed, but not at all out 
> > > of fear of compromising with the principles of freedom.
> > > Now that we have dealt with the spurious criticisms, what are the 
> > > benefits of the Palin candidacy?
> > > First and foremost, just sit back and relax for a moment, and consider 
> > > this scenario. The McCain (ugh!) – Palin (whoop-di-do) ticket is elected 
> > > in November. The duffer kicks the bucket after a heart attack in early 
> > > 2009, and our girl is now President of these here United States. Who does 
> > > she choose as Vice President? Why, a certain Congressman from Texas. I’m 
> > > not at liberty to reveal his name at the present time, but I’ll give you 
> > > a hint: he is widely known by both friends and enemies as "Dr. No." 
> > > Double whoop-di-do, say I. No, quadruple. Unlikely? Yes. But 
> > > politicallyimpossible? No.
> > > Did you notice how Sarah is widely referred to, when in formal mode? Yes, 
> > > asMrs.Palin, notMs.Palin. Isn’t that wonderful? Doesn’t that really stick 
> > > it to the socialist feminists? Yes, indeedy do. And, there is no group 
> > > that more deserves such a come-uppance than they. They have long striven 
> > > to stuff this horrid bit of nomenclature (seehere) down our collective 
> > > throats, and, on all too many occasions have succeeded. It is time, it is 
> > > long past time, that we jettison this insufferable politically correct 
> > > attack on traditional gender distinction.
> > > She delivers a hugely deserved kick in the teeth to those limousine 
> > > liberals who infest both east and west coasts of our country. I’m talking 
> > > about the intellectual-academic-cultural "elites" who dismiss the rest of 
> > > the populace as inhabiting "fly over" country. Here is a rifle toting, 
> > > moose killing, basketball playing, beauty contest winning, charismatic 
> > > and eloquent long happily married conservative hockey mom who has made 
> > > something of herself in a very competitive field, who has not gone to 
> > > finishing school at Harvard, Yale or Princeton. She does not revere the 
> > > mainstream media; far from it. She is a breath of fresh air blowing in 
> > > from our northernmost state. God bless her.
> > > Sarah has almost entirelypushedObama off television, and newspaper 
> > > headlines. The timing of McCain’s announcement of her candidacy as Vice 
> > > President could not have been better. It took focus off Obama’s windy, 
> > > insufferable, socialist but, yes, eloquent, acceptance speech like no 
> > > other announcement could have done. If that, alone, was Sarah’s only 
> > > accomplishment, it would have almost been worth it.
> > > True confession time. Before Palin (BP), I was leaning toward Obama. I 
> > > thought he was marginally less likely to drop a nuclear bomb on some 
> > > hapless third world country than mad bomber McCain. I regarded, and still 
> > > do, foreign policy as more important than domestic, given that "war is 
> > > the health of the state." And, there was very little to choose between 
> > > the Republocrats and the Demopublicans on economics. Socialism from both 
> > > quarters (although I admit it, the prospect of Alan Dershowitz on the 
> > > Supreme Court did give me pause for thought). But now, after Palin (AP), 
> > > I am shifting my allegiance to the Republicans. Go, Sarah, go! But what 
> > > about the libertarians? Don’t speak to me about the libertarians! The 
> > > Barr-Root ticket is arguably less libertarian than Sarah Palin. Barr in 
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