Actually...

Walter Mondale redefined the role of VP, not all that long ago, but
some time ago now.

As for "making Law", it takes them doing a good Job as VP before the
American people give them that Job.


On Sep 8, 4:14 am, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you England. <yawn>  Just so you know - the VP is a lot like the Queen
> of England... she doesn't do much (Cheney is an exception).  The VP's
> beliefs (or stance) do not make law nor do they necessarily dictate policy.
> If the VP's beliefs made law we can only imagine what Al Gore would have
> done to this country.  LOL
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "creusa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Sarah Palin
>
> What on earth is WRONG with you all in the US? Have you all lost any
> understanding of moderation and commn sense? Is this how people from
> Planet Belch think?
>
> She is a fundamentalist extremist...and I find it highly amusing (if
> it were not so tragic) that those in this forum who dislike
> fundamental extremism in in other cultures is actually supporting it
> in your own.
>
> Are you going to tell me that someone who objects to abortion even in
> cases of rape or incest is balanced????? That believing that evolution
> doesn't happen is balanced and open minded enough to possibly run the
> country?
>
> And who knows much of anything about her stance on the handling of the
> economy, (kind of important right now...) capital punishment (I'll bet
> I can make a good guess at this one...) or oil exploration? How about
> international diplomacy or her bias concerning other countries?
>
> Where in God's name have you all left your good sense??
>
> creusa
>
> On Sep 8, 6:42 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Libertarians Voting for the Republican Ticket?!?!?!?!?!?
>
> > Something tells me Obama is in some serioous trouble now...
>
> > How long before he dump Biden and BEGS Hillary to be his VP?!?!?!?!?
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On Sep 7, 9:19 pm, "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Sarah Palinby Walter Block
> > > No one who has anything nice to say about Ron Paul can be all bad. Sarah
> > > Palin has said nice things about Ron Paul
> > > (seehere,here,here,hereandhere). Ergo, therefore, as a result, it cannot
> > > be denied, it logically follows, Sarah Palin cannot be all bad. That is,
> > > she cannot be all badno matter what elseshe is guilty of (within reason
> > > of course.)
> > > So, what are the criticisms of her?
> > > First and foremost, she is accused of not having enough experience. I
> > > admit it! She does not have enough experience. Enough experience, that
> > > is, to become emperor of the world. Yes, John McCain, Barack Obama and
> > > Joe Biden do seek this post of planetary domination, now held by George
> > > Bush. That is, these three show every evidence of wanting to continue
> > > the U.S. role as hegemon of the entire globe. Now, it may well be that
> > > Palin will in future be seduced into this sort of ambition. But, at
> > > least as ofright now, there is little or no evidence of it (apart from
> > > some pro-war sentiment). Of the four presidential and vice presidential
> > > candidates, her present experience shows theleastdesire to rule the
> > > world. So, her "lack of experience" is a good thing, not a bad one.
> > > Does she have enough "experience" to be president of a country with a
> > > limited government, and no aspiration to be world dictator? Of course
> > > she does. And, again, she hasmoreexperience in this regard than either
> > > McCain, Obama or Biden. She, alone of the four of them, has
> > > hadexecutiveexperience as the Governor of the great state of Alaska,
> > > while the other three have been whiling their way in a relatively
> > > unimportant institution, in this era of presidential power. So, don’t
> > > talk to me about experience, as a critique of this lady.
> > > Second, it is said that with five children, she has too many other
> > > obligations to take on the role of vice president. Give me a break. She
> > > can’t vote in the senate when there is a tie? C’mon! This charge
> > > emanates from left-wing feminists, of course. Suppose Hillary were to
> > > have had five children the ages of Sarah’s. Would the legions of her
> > > supporters be making this case with regard to Mrs. Clinton? To ask this
> > > is to answer it. In that case, Hillary’s ascendency would only serve as
> > > evidence that "You can have it all." The hypocrisy of these "feminists"
> > > stinks to the high heavens. They do not support the idea ofwomenbreaking
> > > through the so-called glass ceiling. Rather, they favorleft-wing
> > > socialist femalesbeing given positions of authority and responsibility.
> > > This is something very different. It is a rare occasion that these
> > > feminists have been caught with their contradictions so much in the
> > > public eye. All those sick and tired of these harridans ought to thank
> > > Sarah for this one boon alone.
> > > Third, a criticism made by some libertarians is that her adherence to
> > > our principles is only skin deep; she has raised some taxes, considered
> > > banning some books from libraries, engaged in public-private ventures
> > > regarding oil pipelines, she is altogether too friendly to US foreign
> > > aggression. Yes, yes, she is no libertarian, certainly not of the purist
> > > variety. She is no Ron Paul. But, a little context here, please.
> > > Compared to McCain, Obama and Biden, she is a veritable Murray N.
> > > Rothbard. What about matching her up against all the other 49 governors?
> > > Well, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana is not all bad as far as these things
> > > go, and there might be another half dozen of this breed, mainly in the
> > > poorly populated states west of the Mississippi, but surely Sarah Palin
> > > fits comfortably into this category. According tothis source, tax
> > > freedom day arrives earliest in Alaska, of all 50 states. Not too
> > > shabby, at least in this context. She favors drilling in theANWR, and
> > > that alone is worth the price of admission.
> > > Another critique emanating from this quarter is that even if Sarah isn’t
> > > all that bad in terms of libertarianism, at least compared to her peers,
> > > as soon as she goes to Washington D.C. as Vice President, she will "grow
> > > in office" and become more acceptable to socialists such as those who
> > > plague theNew York Times,Newsweek, NBC and the other major media
> > > outlets. Well, yes, I suppose, this could happen. But, again, let us not
> > > lose sight of context. This hasalreadytaken place for the likes of
> > > McCain, Obama and Biden, who have been located in the beltway for many,
> > > many years. And, yes, there are indeed "libertarian" think tanks now
> > > located inside the beltway whose adherence to this philosophy has,
> > > sadly, deteriorated in the last little while. But there is
> > > nonecessitythat this disease will afflict Sarah. Indeed, there are
> > > groups, organizations and people who serve as counterexamples, and
> > > illustrate the concept of free will. Exhibit "A" is of course Ron Paul.
> > > He has been a denizen of Washington D.C. for decades now, and shows no
> > > signs of yielding to this affliction. George Ayittey is as strong a
> > > supporter of the free society as he was when he first became a professor
> > > of economics at American University many years ago. Tom DiLorenzo is
> > > located near the beltway in Baltimore, and is second to none in his
> > > adherence of libertarianism. Then, too, there are a whole host of
> > > libertarians on the faculty of nearby George Mason University. The Mises
> > > Institute itself, bastion of liberty and world headquarters of the
> > > Austro-libertarian movement, was for a time located in the DC environs.
> > > They departed, but not at all out of fear of compromising with the
> > > principles of freedom.
> > > Now that we have dealt with the spurious criticisms, what are the
> > > benefits of the Palin candidacy?
> > > First and foremost, just sit back and relax for a moment, and consider
> > > this scenario. The McCain (ugh!) – Palin (whoop-di-do) ticket is elected
> > > in November. The duffer kicks the bucket after a heart attack in early
> > > 2009, and our girl is now President of these here United States. Who
> > > does she choose as Vice President? Why, a certain Congressman from
> > > Texas. I’m not at liberty to reveal his name at the present time, but I’ll
> > > give you a hint: he is widely known by both friends and enemies as "Dr.
> > > No." Double whoop-di-do, say I. No, quadruple. Unlikely? Yes. But
> > > politicallyimpossible? No.
> > > Did you notice how Sarah is widely referred to, when in formal mode?
> > > Yes, asMrs.Palin, notMs.Palin. Isn’t that wonderful? Doesn’t that really
> > > stick it to the socialist feminists? Yes, indeedy do. And, there is no
> > > group that more deserves such a come-uppance than they. They have long
> > > striven to stuff this horrid bit of nomenclature (seehere) down our
> > > collective throats, and, on all too many occasions have succeeded. It is
> > > time, it is long past time, that we jettison this insufferable
> > > politically correct attack on traditional gender distinction.
> > > She delivers a hugely deserved kick in the teeth to those limousine
> > > liberals who infest both east and west coasts of our country. I’m
> > > talking about the intellectual-academic-cultural "elites" who dismiss
> > > the rest of the populace as inhabiting "fly over" country. Here is a
> > > rifle toting, moose killing, basketball playing, beauty contest winning,
> > > charismatic and eloquent long happily married conservative hockey mom
> > > who has made something of herself in a very competitive field, who has
> > > not gone to finishing school at Harvard, Yale or Princeton. She does not
> > > revere the mainstream media; far from it. She is a breath of fresh air
> > > blowing in from our northernmost state. God bless her.
> > > Sarah has almost entirelypushedObama off television, and newspaper
> > > headlines. The timing of
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