Political Amazon??

Don't you read any of the other posts to this group?  Hell, you even
posted to the thread where this Daily Kos manufactured lie was proven
to be just that, a lie.

http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum/browse_thread/thread/c49573ebea5b9383/41ffcf20157335ce?lnk=gst&q=AIP#41ffcf20157335ce


Pitiful, just pitiful that you would continue to spread

On Sep 8, 10:48 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you are a desperate idiot
>
> On Sep 8, 10:42 am, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Re0vmbtHK8&feature=related
>
> > This is a shocking video about the AIP, to which Sarah Palin is
> > closely affiliated.  She spoke to their 2008 convention, and attended
> > the 1994 convenetion.  Her husband was a member for years,  According
> > to the speaker, so was Sarah Palin. More shocking, he indicates that
> > she joined the GOP to further her political goals, but her agenda was
> > still basically the AIP's agenda..
>
> > Here's a quote from AIP's founder that will set the stage for this
> > video:
>
> > “The fires of Hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the
> > American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag!”
>
> > --- Alaskan Independence Party founder Joe Voegler
>
> > In the video, the man speaking (with the beard) is Vice Chairman of
> > the AIP, Dexter Clark
>
> > This is a partial transcript, but you should really listen to it
> > yourself to get the full impact.
>
> > (BEGIN QUOTE)
> > ...The basic argument of the Alaskan Independence Party has always
> > been the number one plank in our platform - the question of our vote
> > to become a state. So…the most blaring disparity in that vote was the
> > definition of an eligible voter.  Among those qualified to cast a
> > ballot were 41,000 American soldiers and 36,000 dependants.  Now, to
> > the native population of Alaska, to me, these were occupation troops!
> > And they were made eligible and, in fact encouraged to vote. There
> > were educational meetings held on the military bases.  I can’t imagine
> > them telling anyone that anything but that statehood would be very
> > good for the military - in fact they still have 6, 7 big bases and
> > numerous smaller holdings in the state.  Statehood would be good for
> > the military.  Now can you imagine the international uproar if
> > American troops had all went and got their purple fingers in
> > Iraq? ...':
> > (END OF QUOTE)
>
> > WOAH!  The AIP considers American soldiers in Alaska to be "occupation
> > troops"?  He objects to the soldiers being able to vote!  He equates
> > American soldiers stationed at American bases in Alaska (Americans and
> > Alaska is part of the U.S.) voting with the scenario of American
> > troops voting in Iraq!  This is so wrong on so many levels, it makes
> > me nauseous.
>
> > Okay, after he calls American soldiers "occupying troops and equates
> > them voting in Alaska with the scenario of them voting in Iraq, he
> > continues with obections to the way statehood was voted-in in Alaska.
> > Not only that, he objects to voters being required to read and write
> > English, which was a requirement of the Voters Right Act at that
> > time.
>
> > Thats right: he objects to voters being required to read and write
> > English!
>
> > At about minute 6:00, he discusses how the AIP supported Sarah Palin
> > as governor.  AND he says, before she ran for mayor, she was an AIP
> > member.  This is the kicker: he indicates that she joined the
> > Republican Party to advance her political career.  He also indicates
> > thatthe Republican Party was "pretty well sympathetic" to former AIP
> > membership.  Basically, he's saying "Sarah Palin may be a registered
> > GOP but she really --wink, wink--supports the AIP and its agenda.
>
> > Pardon the hell out of me, but the "pretty well sympathetic" comment
> > is very worrisome.  The Republican Party should have kicked her to the
> > curb if they thought she was sympathetic with the AIP's agenda!  The
> > AIP is anti-American, views American soldiers stationed in Alaska as
> > "occupying troops," and, in fact, has stated he hates America.
>
> > (BEGIN QUOTE)...“Our current governor, we mentioned at the last
> > conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did
> > get elected. There’s a joke, she’s a pretty good looking gal, there’s
> > a joke goes around we’re the coldest state with the hottest governor.
> > (laughter) And there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an
> > AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town — that
> > was a non-partisan job. But to get along and go along — she eventually
> > joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with
> > their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an
> > 80% approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former
> > membership.“...(END OF QUOTE)
>
> > Clark then continues on, discussing the oil industry and how Alaskans
> > are not profiting enough from it (one of Sarah Palin's beliefs), and
> > discusses the ethics investigations of GOP Senator Ted Stevens and GOP
> > congressional rep Don Young.
>
> > He then goes on to encourage Alaska-independence, Anti-American groups
> > to INFILTRATE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY...groups like "Christian Exodus,"
> > an extremist religious group. He goes on to say that even getting a
> > member of a group elected to CITY COUNCIL can advance the Anti-
> > American AIP agenda.  You mean, like Sarah Palin was elected onto the
> > City Council?  He instructs the listener that anyone can check a box
> > to join the GOP, even though their agenda and goals are counter-
> > productive to the GOP's own agenda and goals.
>
> > (BEGIN QUOTE)...If there is ever a time that is right for change, this
> > is it.  In our own situation, we discussed several options.  Do we try
> > and get our case into the International Court of Justice, or to the
> > World Court?  Several Native Alaskan organizations are taking that
> > route, independent of us.  They want to do it on their own terms.
> > They haven’t realized, in my mind, the potential of their own
> > political party.  The pitfalls of an organized political party - you
> > don’t have any control over who joins that party.   They put the X
> > next to it on the registration form, and if they join the — go into
> > the primary, and win that primary, they’re your candidate, like it or
> > not.  I think Ron Paul has kind of proven that.  He’s a dyed -in-the-
> > wool Libertarian.  He came to Alaska and spoke as a Libertarian.  And
> > he put the Republican label on to get elected.  That’s all there is to
> > it.  And any one of your organizations should be using that same
> > tactic to infiltrate.  I know that Christian Exodus is in favor of it,
> > I know that the Free State Movement is in favor of it.  I don’t know
> > that they even care which party it is.  Which ever party you see
> > where you can get something done, get into that political party, even
> > though it does have it’s problems.  Right now that is one of the only
> > avenues.  If you can get a few people on the city council, or a town
> > board, you can have some effect....(END OF QUOTE)- Hide quoted text -
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