jgg,

WTF do I have to do with whateverthefuck a "coastal liberal" is? I
live in St. louis, Mo. for Christ's sake. What the hell is "unconcious
discrimination"?



On Sep 9, 4:02 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the author will not say racism and sexism, I will...   These Coastal
> Liberals need to work on their prejudice BEFORE they demand that their
> EQUALS work on theirs...  Hollywood and PA are but examples on this
> board...
>
> http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/coastal_privileg...
>
> >>> I'm surprised--though I shouldn't be, of course--that any number of 
> >>> liberals who are (presumably) comfortable with concepts like unconscious 
> >>> discrimination and privilege when it comes to race, have not even stopped 
> >>> to consider that the same sort of thing might be operating here.
>
> Let's be honest, coastal folks:  when you meet someone with a thick
> southern accent who likes NASCAR and attends a bible church, do you
> think, "hey, maybe this is a cool person"?  And when you encounter
> someone who went to Eastern Iowa State, do you accord them the same
> respect you give your friends from Williams?  It's okay--there's no
> one here but us chickens.  You don't.
>
> Maybe you don't know you're doing it.  But I have quite brilliant
> friends who grew up in rural areas and went to state schools--not
> Michigan or UT, but ordinary state schools--who say that, indeed, when
> they mention where they went to school, there's often a droop in the
> eyelids, a certain forced quality to the smile.  Oh, Arizona State.
> Great weather out there.  Don't I need a drink or something? This
> person couldn't possibly interest me.
>
> People from a handful of schools, most of them hailing from a handful
> of major metropolitan areas, dominate academia, journalism, and the
> entertainment industry.  Our subtle (or not-so-subtle) distaste for
> everything from their entertainment to their decorating choices to the
> vast swathes of the country in which they choose to live permeate
> almost everything they read, watch, or hear.  Of course we don't hear
> it--to us, that's simply the way the world is.
>
> In the 1980s, I played on possibly the worst girl's basketball team in
> the state of New York.  Every time another Catholic school kicked our
> asses (I believe one memorable game ended at 48 to 2) we consoled
> ourselves by making fun of their big, sprayed, permed hair, and the
> lavish eye makeup that ran down their faces when they sweated.  We
> didn't know that what divided us from those girls was economic class--
> they were the children of plumbers and bodega owners, while we were
> the children of bankers and lawyers and lobbyists.  We genuinely
> believed that we had simply been gifted with a better fashion sense.
>
> But I bet those girls knew exactly what we were saying as we got on
> the bus.  And I'm pretty sure they knew what we were really talking
> about.
>
> Red America exaggerates the contempt, of course.  It's also true that
> if you're expecting racism and sexism, you'll probably end up
> misinterpreting perfectly innocent remarks.  But the fact that they
> aren't right in every particular does not mean that, in general,
> they've got it wrong.  For one thing, in both DC and New York I've
> spent a fair amount of time listening to liberals make jokes about red
> states that would horrify them if they were told about blacks.  But
> even if that weren't true, I wouldn't be the best person to assess
> whether there is prejudice or not.  I'm so close to it that I can't
> see it.
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