jgg,

Where's "Williams?" I've never heard of it.

Is it one of those elite east coast college's like Harvard or Yale?
You know, like both Bush and Kerry went to.

On Sep 9, 4:13 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Read the article...  As it written by one who lives among the Coatal
> Liberals, she explains it well...  Just like the reaction the MSM gave
> Palin, including the NPR who was sure Sarah Palin would prove to be
> fake....  Oh well...
>
> >>> Let's be honest, coastal folks:  when you meet someone with a thick
>
> southern accent who likes NASCAR and attends a bible church, do you
> think, "hey, maybe this is a cool person"?  And when you encounter
> someone who went to Eastern Iowa State, do you accord them the same
> respect you give your friends from Williams?  It's okay--there's no
> one here but us chickens.  You don't.
>
> On Sep 9, 5:09 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > jgg,
>
> > WTF do I have to do with whateverthefuck a "coastal liberal" is? I
> > live in St. louis, Mo. for Christ's sake. What the hell is "unconcious
> > discrimination"?
>
> > On Sep 9, 4:02 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > the author will not say racism and sexism, I will...   These Coastal
> > > Liberals need to work on their prejudice BEFORE they demand that their
> > > EQUALS work on theirs...  Hollywood and PA are but examples on this
> > > board...
>
> > >http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/coastal_privileg...
>
> > > >>> I'm surprised--though I shouldn't be, of course--that any number of 
> > > >>> liberals who are (presumably) comfortable with concepts like 
> > > >>> unconscious discrimination and privilege when it comes to race, have 
> > > >>> not even stopped to consider that the same sort of thing might be 
> > > >>> operating here.
>
> > > Let's be honest, coastal folks:  when you meet someone with a thick
> > > southern accent who likes NASCAR and attends a bible church, do you
> > > think, "hey, maybe this is a cool person"?  And when you encounter
> > > someone who went to Eastern Iowa State, do you accord them the same
> > > respect you give your friends from Williams?  It's okay--there's no
> > > one here but us chickens.  You don't.
>
> > > Maybe you don't know you're doing it.  But I have quite brilliant
> > > friends who grew up in rural areas and went to state schools--not
> > > Michigan or UT, but ordinary state schools--who say that, indeed, when
> > > they mention where they went to school, there's often a droop in the
> > > eyelids, a certain forced quality to the smile.  Oh, Arizona State.
> > > Great weather out there.  Don't I need a drink or something? This
> > > person couldn't possibly interest me.
>
> > > People from a handful of schools, most of them hailing from a handful
> > > of major metropolitan areas, dominate academia, journalism, and the
> > > entertainment industry.  Our subtle (or not-so-subtle) distaste for
> > > everything from their entertainment to their decorating choices to the
> > > vast swathes of the country in which they choose to live permeate
> > > almost everything they read, watch, or hear.  Of course we don't hear
> > > it--to us, that's simply the way the world is.
>
> > > In the 1980s, I played on possibly the worst girl's basketball team in
> > > the state of New York.  Every time another Catholic school kicked our
> > > asses (I believe one memorable game ended at 48 to 2) we consoled
> > > ourselves by making fun of their big, sprayed, permed hair, and the
> > > lavish eye makeup that ran down their faces when they sweated.  We
> > > didn't know that what divided us from those girls was economic class--
> > > they were the children of plumbers and bodega owners, while we were
> > > the children of bankers and lawyers and lobbyists.  We genuinely
> > > believed that we had simply been gifted with a better fashion sense.
>
> > > But I bet those girls knew exactly what we were saying as we got on
> > > the bus.  And I'm pretty sure they knew what we were really talking
> > > about.
>
> > > Red America exaggerates the contempt, of course.  It's also true that
> > > if you're expecting racism and sexism, you'll probably end up
> > > misinterpreting perfectly innocent remarks.  But the fact that they
> > > aren't right in every particular does not mean that, in general,
> > > they've got it wrong.  For one thing, in both DC and New York I've
> > > spent a fair amount of time listening to liberals make jokes about red
> > > states that would horrify them if they were told about blacks.  But
> > > even if that weren't true, I wouldn't be the best person to assess
> > > whether there is prejudice or not.  I'm so close to it that I can't
> > > see it.- Hide quoted text -
>
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