jgg,

Well then, try thinking in English next time.

On Sep 10, 2:27 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That was my thought on your post...
>
> On Sep 10, 2:52 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > jgg,
>
> > Would you try that again, only in English?  "Then Hollywood out your
> > our cyncial posting style..."  WTF???????
>
> > On Sep 10, 1:35 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > >>> Did i say I cared where it was?  Why should I do it if I already know 
> > > >>> you will do it for me?
>
> > > Then Hollywood out your our cyncial posting style...  You wrote
>
> > > >>> Where's "Williams?" I've never heard of it.
>
> > > I guess you must be a CONSERVATIVE as there are NO LIBERALS in St.
> > > Louis...   Right???   Hollywood you are a Coastal Liberal in
> > > attitude...
>
> > > On Sep 9, 6:09 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > jgg,
>
> > > > Did i say I cared where it was?
> > > > Why should I do it if I already know you will do it for me?
> > > > Still want to know what I have to do with "coastal liberalism". You
> > > > mentioned me by name, don't you know what your talking about? Your not
> > > > aware of how far St. Louis is from either coast or what?
>
> > > > On Sep 9, 4:24 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Doing YOUR googleing FOR FREE again
>
> > > > >http://www.williams.edu/home/fast_facts/
>
> > > > > On Sep 9, 5:20 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > jgg,
>
> > > > > > Where's "Williams?" I've never heard of it.
>
> > > > > > Is it one of those elite east coast college's like Harvard or Yale?
> > > > > > You know, like both Bush and Kerry went to.
>
> > > > > > On Sep 9, 4:13 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Read the article...  As it written by one who lives among the 
> > > > > > > Coatal
> > > > > > > Liberals, she explains it well...  Just like the reaction the MSM 
> > > > > > > gave
> > > > > > > Palin, including the NPR who was sure Sarah Palin would prove to 
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > fake....  Oh well...
>
> > > > > > > >>> Let's be honest, coastal folks:  when you meet someone with a 
> > > > > > > >>> thick
>
> > > > > > > southern accent who likes NASCAR and attends a bible church, do 
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > think, "hey, maybe this is a cool person"?  And when you encounter
> > > > > > > someone who went to Eastern Iowa State, do you accord them the 
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > respect you give your friends from Williams?  It's okay--there's 
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > one here but us chickens.  You don't.
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 9, 5:09 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > jgg,
>
> > > > > > > > WTF do I have to do with whateverthefuck a "coastal liberal" 
> > > > > > > > is? I
> > > > > > > > live in St. louis, Mo. for Christ's sake. What the hell is 
> > > > > > > > "unconcious
> > > > > > > > discrimination"?
>
> > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 4:02 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > the author will not say racism and sexism, I will...   These 
> > > > > > > > > Coastal
> > > > > > > > > Liberals need to work on their prejudice BEFORE they demand 
> > > > > > > > > that their
> > > > > > > > > EQUALS work on theirs...  Hollywood and PA are but examples 
> > > > > > > > > on this
> > > > > > > > > board...
>
> > > > > > > > >http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/coastal_privileg...
>
> > > > > > > > > >>> I'm surprised--though I shouldn't be, of course--that any 
> > > > > > > > > >>> number of liberals who are (presumably) comfortable with 
> > > > > > > > > >>> concepts like unconscious discrimination and privilege 
> > > > > > > > > >>> when it comes to race, have not even stopped to consider 
> > > > > > > > > >>> that the same sort of thing might be operating here.
>
> > > > > > > > > Let's be honest, coastal folks:  when you meet someone with a 
> > > > > > > > > thick
> > > > > > > > > southern accent who likes NASCAR and attends a bible church, 
> > > > > > > > > do you
> > > > > > > > > think, "hey, maybe this is a cool person"?  And when you 
> > > > > > > > > encounter
> > > > > > > > > someone who went to Eastern Iowa State, do you accord them 
> > > > > > > > > the same
> > > > > > > > > respect you give your friends from Williams?  It's 
> > > > > > > > > okay--there's no
> > > > > > > > > one here but us chickens.  You don't.
>
> > > > > > > > > Maybe you don't know you're doing it.  But I have quite 
> > > > > > > > > brilliant
> > > > > > > > > friends who grew up in rural areas and went to state 
> > > > > > > > > schools--not
> > > > > > > > > Michigan or UT, but ordinary state schools--who say that, 
> > > > > > > > > indeed, when
> > > > > > > > > they mention where they went to school, there's often a droop 
> > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > eyelids, a certain forced quality to the smile.  Oh, Arizona 
> > > > > > > > > State.
> > > > > > > > > Great weather out there.  Don't I need a drink or something? 
> > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > person couldn't possibly interest me.
>
> > > > > > > > > People from a handful of schools, most of them hailing from a 
> > > > > > > > > handful
> > > > > > > > > of major metropolitan areas, dominate academia, journalism, 
> > > > > > > > > and the
> > > > > > > > > entertainment industry.  Our subtle (or not-so-subtle) 
> > > > > > > > > distaste for
> > > > > > > > > everything from their entertainment to their decorating 
> > > > > > > > > choices to the
> > > > > > > > > vast swathes of the country in which they choose to live 
> > > > > > > > > permeate
> > > > > > > > > almost everything they read, watch, or hear.  Of course we 
> > > > > > > > > don't hear
> > > > > > > > > it--to us, that's simply the way the world is.
>
> > > > > > > > > In the 1980s, I played on possibly the worst girl's 
> > > > > > > > > basketball team in
> > > > > > > > > the state of New York.  Every time another Catholic school 
> > > > > > > > > kicked our
> > > > > > > > > asses (I believe one memorable game ended at 48 to 2) we 
> > > > > > > > > consoled
> > > > > > > > > ourselves by making fun of their big, sprayed, permed hair, 
> > > > > > > > > and the
> > > > > > > > > lavish eye makeup that ran down their faces when they 
> > > > > > > > > sweated.  We
> > > > > > > > > didn't know that what divided us from those girls was 
> > > > > > > > > economic class--
> > > > > > > > > they were the children of plumbers and bodega owners, while 
> > > > > > > > > we were
> > > > > > > > > the children of bankers and lawyers and lobbyists.  We 
> > > > > > > > > genuinely
> > > > > > > > > believed that we had simply been gifted with a better fashion 
> > > > > > > > > sense.
>
> > > > > > > > > But I bet those girls knew exactly what we were saying as we 
> > > > > > > > > got on
> > > > > > > > > the bus.  And I'm pretty sure they knew what we were really 
> > > > > > > > > talking
> > > > > > > > > about.
>
> > > > > > > > > Red America exaggerates the contempt, of course.  It's also 
> > > > > > > > > true that
> > > > > > > > > if you're expecting racism and sexism, you'll probably end up
> > > > > > > > > misinterpreting perfectly innocent remarks.  But the fact 
> > > > > > > > > that they
> > > > > > > > > aren't right in every particular does not mean that, in 
> > > > > > > > > general,
> > > > > > > > > they've got it wrong.  For one thing, in both DC and New York 
> > > > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > spent a fair amount of time listening to liberals make jokes 
> > > > > > > > > about red
> > > > > > > > > states that would horrify them if they were told about 
> > > > > > > > > blacks.  But
> > > > > > > > > even if that weren't true, I wouldn't be the best person to 
> > > > > > > > > assess
> > > > > > > > > whether there is prejudice or not.  I'm so close to it that I 
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