And yes, the Mustard ones were nearly degraded to a point that they were not all that harmful...
But that is not true of the Binary Sarin Shells found. They are still very deadly, and the components can be used in other ways to make them even more deadly. On Sep 11, 8:01 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 500 of the type that were supposed to have been DESTROYED or NEVER > MADE!!!! > > They were Sarin and Mustard Gas, they didn't give the break down as to > how many of each type... > > On Sep 11, 7:59 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > 500 shells of specifically what type, in what sort of condition and in > > what sort of condition were the appropiate delivery systems of said > > shells? > > > I don't NEED to try to "keep up", I have you to do it for me. > > > On Sep 11, 8:07 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I believe one of the last Reports I saw said something like 500 Shells > > > were found... > > > > Again, try to keep up. > > > > On Sep 11, 5:50 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > OH MY GOD, they had TWO?????? :-) > > > > > On Sep 11, 6:11 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Nope, they discovered some with Mustard Gas as well... > > > > > > Try to keep up holly. > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2:41 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > > > A (as in one) 155mm shell containing Sarin gas????? > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 1:43 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/mariani/2004/mariani052804.htm > > > > > > > > The Sound of Silence: Iraq's WMDs Found > > > > > > > > May 28, 2004 > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > by Joe Mariani > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > After spending more than a year attacking the Bush administration > > > > > > > daily for their supposed failure to produce the WMDs that > > > > > > > everyone -- > > > > > > > including the United Nations, as well as most leading Democrats -- > > > > > > > believed Saddam had hidden, the Left has suddenly gone strangely > > > > > > > silent on the subject. The "mainstream" media has been tiptoeing > > > > > > > around the discovery of a 155-mm mortar shell containing Sarin > > > > > > > gas in > > > > > > > Iraq, the contents of which have been confirmed. The shell was > > > > > > > used as > > > > > > > part of an improvised explosive device (IED) on a road near the > > > > > > > Baghdad International Airport, and exploded as it was being > > > > > > > disarmed. > > > > > > > > The shell contained three liters of Sarin -- nearly a gallon. It > > > > > > > was a > > > > > > > type of shell designed to mix chemical components during flight, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > was why the explosion didn't kill anyone (though two soldiers were > > > > > > > treated for exposure). Three liters of Sarin is enough, if the > > > > > > > components are mixed properly, to realistically kill hundreds, and > > > > > > > potentially thousands. A concentration of 100 milligrams of Sarin > > > > > > > per > > > > > > > cubic meter of air is enough to constitute a lethal dose for half > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > people breathing it within one minute. > > > > > > > > This type of chemical warfare shell had never been declared by > > > > > > > Iraq -- > > > > > > > it was not even known that Iraq had ever made them. The 1999 > > > > > > > UNSCOM > > > > > > > report on Iraq reported that thirty binary/Sarin shells were > > > > > > > known to > > > > > > > exist, and stated that all had been accounted for. According to > > > > > > > UNSCOM, "Iraq developed a crude type of binary munition, whereby > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > final mixing of the two precursors to the agent was done inside > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > munition just before delivery." Someone actually had to physically > > > > > > > pour the components of the Sarin (or other type of G-series nerve > > > > > > > agent) into the shells before they could be fired. At least, > > > > > > > that's > > > > > > > how the ones we knew about worked. > > > > > > > > So, a previously-unknown type of artillery shell is found in Iraq, > > > > > > > containing an actual, verifiable chemical weapon. This is front > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > news, right? Should we expect apologies from formerly doubting > > > > > > > Liberals? Newspapers filled with retractions from prominent > > > > > > > Democrats? > > > > > > > Conciliatory visits to President Bush from Jaques Chirac and > > > > > > > Gerhardt > > > > > > > Schroeder? Not so fast. Remember: it's an election year. Liberals, > > > > > > > Democrats, terrorists and appeasers all want President Bush to > > > > > > > lose > > > > > > > the election so everyone can get back to business as usual. > > > > > > > Terrorists > > > > > > > want to get back to their implacable war against Western > > > > > > > civilisation, > > > > > > > and the others want to get back to trying to placate them. The > > > > > > > media, > > > > > > > as long as we let them get away with it, will only run stories > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > attack President Bush and undermine support for him. In fact, > > > > > > > Liberals > > > > > > > already have their spin on this Sarin find ready to go. The vast > > > > > > > majority of them -- when you can get them to admit that the Sarin > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the shell are real -- argue that it doesn't matter for one of four > > > > > > > "reasons." > > > > > > > > A. The shell is old, from before the 1991 Gulf War, so it's not > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > we were looking for. > > > > > > > > Since the cease-fire that suspended the Gulf War depended on > > > > > > > Saddam's > > > > > > > handing over to the UN "[a]ll chemical and biological weapons and > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all > > > > > > > research, development, support and manufacturing facilities", this > > > > > > > shell is precisely what we were looking for, especially if it > > > > > > > predates > > > > > > > 1991. This shell and others like it is why the UN passed 17 > > > > > > > resolutions demanding that Saddam disarm. No matter how old it > > > > > > > was, it > > > > > > > was still lethal. There is no statute of limitations on weapons of > > > > > > > mass destruction. > > > > > > > > B. There is only one shell, not a stockpile, so it doesn't mean > > > > > > > anything. > > > > > > > > This one shell contained enough WMD material to potentially kill > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > many people as died on 9/11, all by itself. Is it logical to > > > > > > > assume > > > > > > > that this is the only one in existence -- or just wishful > > > > > > > thinking? > > > > > > > The fact is that we still don't know how much Sarin Iraq actually > > > > > > > produced. "At first, Iraq told UNSCOM that it had produced an > > > > > > > estimated 250 tons of tabun and 812 tons of sarin. In 1995, Iraq > > > > > > > changed its estimates and reported it had produced only 210 tons > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > tabun and 790 tons of sarin." (Yes, that's tons.) At the very > > > > > > > least, > > > > > > > it tells us that we haven't nearly finished looking for the WMDs > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > Saddam was supposed to surrender, and didn't. Besides... a shell > > > > > > > containing mustard gas was also found. Well, maybe there were > > > > > > > only two > > > > > > > WMD shells in all of Iraq. > > > > > > > > C. Just because Saddam had WMDs after all, it doesn't mean Bush > > > > > > > didn't > > > > > > > lie about them. > > > > > > > > As ridiculous as it sounds, this appears to be the instinctive, > > > > > > > defensive reaction of many Liberals to this news. They so badly > > > > > > > need > > > > > > > to believe that President Bush lied in order to legitimise their > > > > > > > hatred of him that they're capable of this sort of twisted > > > > > > > reasoning. > > > > > > > The rationale seems to be that WMDs don't count if they aren't > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > where the CIA told us they were, as if they couldn't be moved. > > > > > > > > D. The terrorists didn't even know it was a chemical shell. > > > > > > > > Well, they do now. And they know where they found it, too. > > > > > > > > We need to redouble our efforts to stop the terrorists and find > > > > > > > Saddam's WMDs, before they're used to derail the new Iraqi > > > > > > > government's formation. The media's refusal to give this news the > > > > > > > coverage it deserves can only be due to a calculated attempt to > > > > > > > reduce > > > > > > > American support for our efforts in Iraq, including that of > > > > > > > tracking > > > > > > > down Saddam's banned weapons. The Left's deliberate silence on > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > subject for the purpose of influencing our election only helps our > > > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > Joe Mariani > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Joe Mariani is a computer consultant born and raised in New > > > > > > > Jersey. He > > > > > > > lives in Pennsylvania, where the gun laws are less restrictive and > > > > > > > taxes are lower. Joe always thought of himself as politically > > > > > > > neutral > > > > > > > until he saw how far left the left had really gone after 9/11. His > > > > > > > essays and links to articles are available > > > > > > > athttp://guardian.blogdrive.com/. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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