Apparently to much government control stifles business, yet no
government control produces nothing but irrational anarchy. The
tyranny of choice
On Sep 17, 12:45 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If something needs improvment, get the damn gov't as far away from it as
> possible. works evey time.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You are the one with the brilliant thought, no doubt you have an
> > equally brilliant solution.
> > On Sep 17, 12:35 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Britain's health care system is a bloody catastrophe, talk to the
> > > nurses and the doctors, I do. Shit rises to the top in private health.
> > > More profits mean short cuts to compete with other private providers,
> > > less staff older equipment, no accountability My partner is a 1st
> > > class registered nurse she has witnessed tragedies directly linked to
> > > privatization.
>
> > > Anyway, as I said its not the main issue in relation to your post,so
> > > why not direct the major part of your response to the main issue, the
> > > economy, just as I did when responding to your post?
>
> > > On Sep 17, 12:24 pm, Jim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Perhaps you should look at the governmental distribution of health
> > > > care in Canada and the U.K. Government does nothing well.
> > > > Privatization means competition and the rising of cream to the top.
>
> > > > On Sep 16, 9:20 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I agree with your analysis completely, except about privatizing
> > > > > Medicare and social security. Private health care has proved an
> > > > > absolute disaster on the quality of health services that are
> > delivered
> > > > > and directly related to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
> > > > > world wide. However this is a small issue in the scheme of things.
>
> > > > > Consumerism has replaced production as the main source of growth in
> > > > > the US that is true (70%). This scenario is repeated in all
> > > > > industrialized nations, it is certainly the case here, in England,
> > > > > France,Spain etc. Why has this happened, is the question you have not
> > > > > addressed. Where did the production base go, and why?
>
> > > > > We all know production went off shore, mainly to Asia, to exploit
> > > > > cheap labor and maximize profits.
>
> > > > > In a deregulated economy you can't tell business where they can
> > > > > operate, and they will continue to manufacture in Asia and have their
> > > > > aircraft maintenance carried out in Ecuador or Mexico etc. The
> > > > > competitive nature of capitalism dictates these actions, if they want
> > > > > to remain profitable they simply cannot afford to have US workers
> > > > > assembling their goods. And no government or individual party has any
> > > > > control or say in this global process, it would require heavy
> > > > > regulation by all governments to change this natural course of events
> > > > > within a system centered around the drive for profit.
>
> > > > > The US knew this problem was festering since the early 90's, why do
> > > > > you think they are in the Middle East?
>
> > > > > On Sep 17, 10:38 am, Jim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Without expression I accept Barack Yo Mamma's wandering for a
> > cogent
> > > > > > thought and ambling for aptitude. I expect from him to prattle
> > > > > > endlessly on the economy from a teleprompter like the totalitarian
> > > > > > twit he is. I take for granted that he would get behind the latest
> > > > > > populist novelty and co-op it as his own.
>
> > > > > > Yet, just when John McCain had me chasing the bandwagon, "thanks to
> > > > > > his pick of Sarah Palin" he gets me off the wagon and back on the
> > > > > > couch in just two days. The really sad part is, now that McCain has
> > > > > > Palin parroting his communal rhetoric on the economy I no longer
> > have
> > > > > > those Sarah dreams. That my friend is change we can live without.
> > > > > > Clearly neither candidate understands the economy and probably has
> > > > > > trouble balancing the chewing of gum while walking. What they are
> > > > > > counting on is the faint hope that you are as dumb as they are.
> > Let's
> > > > > > hope that isn't true.
>
> > > > > > While we have both candidates calling for massive new regulation of
> > > > > > Wall Street a suspicion the American people have held for quite
> > some
> > > > > > time has been confirmed. We are surrounded by idiots and they want
> > our
> > > > > > vote.
>
> > > > > > Honest, even you tree hugging, Prius driving, protesting palliate
> > > > > > pundits have to admit your candidate is nothing but a taxing
> > > > > > teleprompter toad. I mean really; I lay you five to one there is a
> > > > > > teleprompter on both sides of Michelle and Barry's bed. The two
> > times
> > > > > > it broke down Michelle got pregnant. I'm just saying.
>
> > > > > > Let's face it folks; the only person asking to be elected and
> > having
> > > > > > the experience to be voted for is Sarah Palin. At least she was an
> > > > > > executive and has worked with budgets. What I find most
> > disconcerting
> > > > > > is to get her; I have to vote for the hunchback of halfwit.
> > > > > > Someone needs to set down the messiah, the hair plugs for men
> > > > > > candidate, the halfwit and the Bullwinkle babe and tell them what I
> > am
> > > > > > about to tell you.
>
> > > > > > A full 70% of our economy is based upon consumer spending; it's all
> > > > > > smoke and mirrors folks. We are borrowing our future from foreign
> > > > > > countries. As soon as they figure out that we will never be able to
> > > > > > pay them back we'll be using dollars to build our tiny fires out in
> > > > > > front of our foreclosed homes.
>
> > > > > > This next election will send a message to those creditor nations
> > that
> > > > > > have been financing our demise. We have $54 trillion dollars in
> > > > > > unfunded entitlements from a gross domestic product of $14.4
> > trillion
> > > > > > dollars. What will happen when we tell seasoned citizens that we
> > don't
> > > > > > have the money for Medicare or Social Security? And, the money they
> > > > > > paid in was spent by pork patronizing politicos.
>
> > > > > > To fix these problems will require a politician not wanting re-
> > > > > > election. Someone, dare I say it, like a one term John McCain. But,
> > it
> > > > > > can't be fixed with more regulation of Wall Street. Regulation is
> > not
> > > > > > the answer; it is a great deal of the problem. What is needed is
> > > > > > accountability, no one is too big to fail and the government has to
> > > > > > get out of the mortgage business. Social Security and Medicare need
> > be
> > > > > > privatized requiring a giant enema for our federal bureaucracies.
> > Of
> > > > > > course it's going to be a mess; all enemas' are. And, in the short
> > > > > > term it's going to hurt. But, there is only one way to un-band aid
> > > > > > this monolithic wart that is bloated, corrupted government. Rip the
> > > > > > damn thing off.
> > > > > > Conservative Springfield 16 SEP 08
>
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