Jim W. Oh please, w/o the government who will the corpotations bribe to get fat no-compete contracts? I'm just saying.....
On Sep 16, 10:24 pm, Jim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I have a solution; and.... it doesn't involve government. Name > one thing government does correctly. > > On Sep 16, 10:14 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > He gave his solution, I have question it, I have not received a direct > > answer to the specific question I have posed. That's what a debate is > > Gaar. Specifics aren't much appreciated are they? Tend to put a bit of > > a spanner in the works of a god story. > > > On Sep 17, 12:47 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > He already explained his solution... > > > > Try to keep up. > > > > On Sep 16, 7:37 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You are the one with the brilliant thought, no doubt you have an > > > > equally brilliant solution. > > > > On Sep 17, 12:35 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Britain's health care system is a bloody catastrophe, talk to the > > > > > nurses and the doctors, I do. Shit rises to the top in private health. > > > > > More profits mean short cuts to compete with other private providers, > > > > > less staff older equipment, no accountability My partner is a 1st > > > > > class registered nurse she has witnessed tragedies directly linked to > > > > > privatization. > > > > > > Anyway, as I said its not the main issue in relation to your post,so > > > > > why not direct the major part of your response to the main issue, the > > > > > economy, just as I did when responding to your post? > > > > > > On Sep 17, 12:24 pm, Jim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Perhaps you should look at the governmental distribution of health > > > > > > care in Canada and the U.K. Government does nothing well. > > > > > > Privatization means competition and the rising of cream to the top. > > > > > > > On Sep 16, 9:20 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree with your analysis completely, except about privatizing > > > > > > > Medicare and social security. Private health care has proved an > > > > > > > absolute disaster on the quality of health services that are > > > > > > > delivered > > > > > > > and directly related to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary > > > > > > > deaths > > > > > > > world wide. However this is a small issue in the scheme of things. > > > > > > > > Consumerism has replaced production as the main source of growth > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the US that is true (70%). This scenario is repeated in all > > > > > > > industrialized nations, it is certainly the case here, in England, > > > > > > > France,Spain etc. Why has this happened, is the question you have > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > addressed. Where did the production base go, and why? > > > > > > > > We all know production went off shore, mainly to Asia, to exploit > > > > > > > cheap labor and maximize profits. > > > > > > > > In a deregulated economy you can't tell business where they can > > > > > > > operate, and they will continue to manufacture in Asia and have > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > aircraft maintenance carried out in Ecuador or Mexico etc. The > > > > > > > competitive nature of capitalism dictates these actions, if they > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > to remain profitable they simply cannot afford to have US workers > > > > > > > assembling their goods. And no government or individual party has > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > control or say in this global process, it would require heavy > > > > > > > regulation by all governments to change this natural course of > > > > > > > events > > > > > > > within a system centered around the drive for profit. > > > > > > > > The US knew this problem was festering since the early 90's, why > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > you think they are in the Middle East? > > > > > > > > On Sep 17, 10:38 am, Jim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Without expression I accept Barack Yo Mamma’s wandering for a > > > > > > > > cogent > > > > > > > > thought and ambling for aptitude. I expect from him to prattle > > > > > > > > endlessly on the economy from a teleprompter like the > > > > > > > > totalitarian > > > > > > > > twit he is. I take for granted that he would get behind the > > > > > > > > latest > > > > > > > > populist novelty and co-op it as his own. > > > > > > > > > Yet, just when John McCain had me chasing the bandwagon, > > > > > > > > “thanks to > > > > > > > > his pick of Sarah Palin” he gets me off the wagon and back on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > couch in just two days. The really sad part is, now that McCain > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > Palin parroting his communal rhetoric on the economy I no > > > > > > > > longer have > > > > > > > > those Sarah dreams. That my friend is change we can live > > > > > > > > without. > > > > > > > > Clearly neither candidate understands the economy and probably > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > trouble balancing the chewing of gum while walking. What they > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > counting on is the faint hope that you are as dumb as they are. > > > > > > > > Let’s > > > > > > > > hope that isn’t true. > > > > > > > > > While we have both candidates calling for massive new > > > > > > > > regulation of > > > > > > > > Wall Street a suspicion the American people have held for quite > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > time has been confirmed. We are surrounded by idiots and they > > > > > > > > want our > > > > > > > > vote. > > > > > > > > > Honest, even you tree hugging, Prius driving, protesting > > > > > > > > palliate > > > > > > > > pundits have to admit your candidate is nothing but a taxing > > > > > > > > teleprompter toad. I mean really; I lay you five to one there > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > teleprompter on both sides of Michelle and Barry’s bed. The two > > > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > it broke down Michelle got pregnant. I’m just saying. > > > > > > > > > Let’s face it folks; the only person asking to be elected and > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > the experience to be voted for is Sarah Palin. At least she was > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > executive and has worked with budgets. What I find most > > > > > > > > disconcerting > > > > > > > > is to get her; I have to vote for the hunchback of halfwit. > > > > > > > > Someone needs to set down the messiah, the hair plugs for men > > > > > > > > candidate, the halfwit and the Bullwinkle babe and tell them > > > > > > > > what I am > > > > > > > > about to tell you. > > > > > > > > > A full 70% of our economy is based upon consumer spending; it’s > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > smoke and mirrors folks. We are borrowing our future from > > > > > > > > foreign > > > > > > > > countries. As soon as they figure out that we will never be > > > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > pay them back we’ll be using dollars to build our tiny fires > > > > > > > > out in > > > > > > > > front of our foreclosed homes. > > > > > > > > > This next election will send a message to those creditor > > > > > > > > nations that > > > > > > > > have been financing our demise. We have $54 trillion dollars in > > > > > > > > unfunded entitlements from a gross domestic product of $14.4 > > > > > > > > trillion > > > > > > > > dollars. What will happen when we tell seasoned citizens that > > > > > > > > we don’t > > > > > > > > have the money for Medicare or Social Security? And, the money > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > paid in was spent by pork patronizing politicos. > > > > > > > > > To fix these problems will require a politician not wanting re- > > > > > > > > election. Someone, dare I say it, like a one term John McCain. > > > > > > > > But, it > > > > > > > > can’t be fixed with more regulation of Wall Street. Regulation > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > the answer; it is a great deal of the problem. What is needed is > > > > > > > > accountability, no one is too big to fail and the government > > > > > > > > has to > > > > > > > > get out of the mortgage business. Social Security and Medicare > > > > > > > > need be > > > > > > > > privatized requiring a giant enema for our federal > > > > > > > > bureaucracies. Of > > > > > > > > course it’s going to be a mess; all enemas’ are. And, in the > > > > > > > > short > > > > > > > > term it’s going to hurt. But, there is only one way to un-band > > > > > > > > aid > > > > > > > > this monolithic wart that is bloated, corrupted government. Rip > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > damn thing off. > > > > > > > > Conservative Springfield 16 SEP 08- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
