Whoever you votr for is a vote against the people of America On Oct 12, 10:32 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > vote for America vote against mccain ! > > On Oct 12, 6:34 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If you believe in freedom and equality for all oppose impotent > > liberalism > > > On Oct 12, 9:10 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > if you believe in the constitution and civil liberties for all support > > > the ACLU . > > > > On Oct 12, 6:02 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > They have however declared war on political consciousness, by > > > > encouraging the idea that impotent petty-bougeois law and its > > > > philistine psuedo intellectuals (who own their own status in society > > > > to maintaing this fraud) representitives are going to use the laws > > > > written by the ruling class to supress the working class is a way of > > > > stopping illegal wire tapping. They have passed the law, it is now > > > > legal. Instead of fighting the disease you run around putting > > > > thousands of baindaids on its symptoms, while the disease spreads even > > > > more virulntley right under your nose. > > > > > "Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of the conditions of your > > > > bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your > > > > jurisprudence is but the will of your class made into a law for all, a > > > > will whose essential character and direction are determined by the > > > > economical conditions of existence of your class." > > > > Karl Marx > > > > > On Oct 12, 6:46 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > the ACLU did not in any way declare war on Christianity except in > > > > > your fevered imagination ! and if you are against protecting the > > > > > constitution just come out and say so . > > > > > > On Oct 11, 1:07 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > This is true in theory Marge but the ACLU decided to declare war on > > > > > > Christianity and made many people suspicious of their true > > > > > > objective. > > > > > > "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in > > > > > > its worst > > > > > > state, an intolerable one." The most important function of the > > > > > > necessary > > > > > > evil is to protect it's citizens. > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "margareth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:29 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Dear ACLU Supporter, Help put an end to out-of-control > > > > > > > government eavesdropping. > > > > > > > Those who are watching me would be bored to death. Yet I still don't > > > > > > like the idea that some old pervert is watching me while I get > > > > > > dressed. It is something of a surprise that those who oppose > > > > > > government interference in their lives the most, also oppose the > > > > > > ACLU, > > > > > > which is the organization whose objective is to protect their > > > > > > constitutional rights. > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 9:12 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > you got something to hide? > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 9:04 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why do you think the gonernment needs to listen to everyones > > > > > > > > PRIVATE > > > > > > > > affairs einstein? Don't tell me, to fight the truck loads of > > > > > > > > terrorists taking over the US? > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 11:20 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > you paranoid too? schizoid they have meds to help with this > > > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:49 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is the real bankruptcy of liberalism. The US is not a > > > > > > > > > > democracy. > > > > > > > > > > It is a dirty, filthy plutocracy--rotten to the core. If it > > > > > > > > > > was a > > > > > > > > > > democracy, the president would have been jailed years ago, > > > > > > > > > > and you > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't have two presidential candidates advocate more > > > > > > > > > > wars of > > > > > > > > > > criminal aggression. > > > > > > > > > > > As if they will be successful in stopping wire tapping > > > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > intergral to the fascist police state that emerges ever > > > > > > > > > > more clearly > > > > > > > > > > day by day. The wire tapping is central to them in > > > > > > > > > > identifying and > > > > > > > > > > suppress bourgeoning political dissent. > > > > > > > > > > > You can't expect a criminal plutocracy to pay heed to the > > > > > > > > > > laws they > > > > > > > > > > write and abrogate day in day out. > > > > > > > > > > > "That's why the ACLU is acting decisively to bring our > > > > > > > > > > government's behavior back in line with the Constitution." > > > > > > > > > > > The goverment loves pressure politics, as they can just > > > > > > > > > > continue to > > > > > > > > > > ignore it, and suppress its more outspoken repressentitives. > > > > > > > > > > > When will you realize that this system rewards the corrupt > > > > > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > greedy with power and wealth and the Obama is as big a > > > > > > > > > > slime bag as > > > > > > > > > > McCain. The lesser of two evils is still evil. > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:42 pm, "[ a patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > From the Desk of Anthony D. Romero > > > > > > > > > > > Executive Director, ACLU > > > > > > > > > > > Help put an end to out-of-control government > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropping. > > > > > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=_xkY0BlIEGZnYZKv0F19HQ.. > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > Dear ACLU Supporter, > > > > > > > > > > > > Reports all over the media yesterday and today confirm > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > we've known all along. Surveillance programs touted as > > > > > > > > > > > critical > > > > > > > > > > > to protect national security have in fact been used to > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the > > > > > > > > > > > private communications of innocent Americans abroad, > > > > > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > > > humanitarian workers and U.S. service-members. > > > > > > > > > > > > Two former military intercept operators -- the people at > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > National > > > > > > > > > > > Security Agency (NSA) who actually listen in to people's > > > > > > > > > > > calls > > > > > > > > > > > -- revealed the news in an ABC report released yesterday. > > > > > > > > > > > > Contrary to direct assurances from Bush administration > > > > > > > > > > > officials > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > NSA monitoring was directed at suspected terrorists, the > > > > > > > > > > > intercept > > > > > > > > > > > operators report that "hundreds of U.S. citizens overseas > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropped on as they call friends and family back > > > > > > > > > > > home." > > > > > > > > > > > > The NSA even intentionally directed its surveillance > > > > > > > > > > > powers at > > > > > > > > > > > well-established humanitarian organizations like Doctors > > > > > > > > > > > Without > > > > > > > > > > > Borders and the International Red Cross. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is outrageous that service men and women and > > > > > > > > > > > international aid > > > > > > > > > > > workers have had their private conversations needlessly > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > wantonly > > > > > > > > > > > invaded by our government. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why the ACLU's lawsuit challenging the > > > > > > > > > > > constitutionality > > > > > > > > > > > of Congress's expansion of the NSA's surveillance > > > > > > > > > > > authority under the FISA Amendments Act is so critical. > > > > > > > > > > > Our case, > > > > > > > > > > > Amnesty International v. McConnell -- brought on behalf > > > > > > > > > > > of an > > > > > > > > > > > impressive array of journalists, human rights > > > > > > > > > > > organizations and > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers -- shines a spotlight on the devastating effect of > > > > > > > > > > > unchecked > > > > > > > > > > > spying power on Americans doing indispensable work around > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > globe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stand up to warrantless and unnecessary government spying. > > > > > > > > > > > help us put an end to out-of-control government > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropping.http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=s_G3HWKZ1ILTedSYHLVDQw.. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's more important than ever that you support the ACLU's > > > > > > > > > > > lawsuit and other actions challenging out-of-control > > > > > > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > > > spying. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just as we warned -- and as our FISA lawsuit contends -- > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > NSA's new unchecked surveillance powers invade the > > > > > > > > > > > privacy of > > > > > > > > > > > innocent Americans and fundamentally undermine human > > > > > > > > > > > rights > > > > > > > > > > > workers, > > > > > > > > > > > journalists and attorneys doing important work around the > > > > > > > > > > > globe. > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > dragnet spying is ineffective, intrusive, unnecessary and > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > certainly unconstitutional. > > > > > > > > > > > > The FISA Amendments Act -- rushed through a timid > > > > > > > > > > > pre-election > > > > > > > > > > > Congress -- gives the government nearly unfettered access > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Americans' international communications without any > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful > > > > > > > > > > > judicial oversight. > > > > > > > > > > > > As this week's news demonstrates, with unchecked and > > > > > > > > > > > unaccountable spying powers, NSA officials will quickly > > > > > > > > > > > run amok. > > > > > > > > > > > That's why the ACLU is acting decisively to bring our > > > > > > > > > > > government's behavior back in line with the Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > We will not yield until we bring this reckless spying to > > > > > > > > > > > an end. > > > > > > > > > > > Please stand with us > > > > > > > > > > > today.http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=cyoC4dvNetiL7VmflS_aeA.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anthony D. 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