Obama is an advocate of free trade. Obama receives more money from Wall St moguels than McCain. He is a corporate prostitute just like the rest The idea that out of two parties you get to choose from that one is good and one is bad is absurd.
American capitalism is finished. The subprime crisis is only one quarter of the way through. On Oct 13, 6:25 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > only if you vote for a free trade at all costs republican ! > > On Oct 12, 5:48 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Whoever you votr for is a vote against the people of America > > > On Oct 12, 10:32 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > vote for America vote against mccain ! > > > > On Oct 12, 6:34 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If you believe in freedom and equality for all oppose impotent > > > > liberalism > > > > > On Oct 12, 9:10 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > if you believe in the constitution and civil liberties for all support > > > > > the ACLU . > > > > > > On Oct 12, 6:02 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > They have however declared war on political consciousness, by > > > > > > encouraging the idea that impotent petty-bougeois law and its > > > > > > philistine psuedo intellectuals (who own their own status in society > > > > > > to maintaing this fraud) representitives are going to use the laws > > > > > > written by the ruling class to supress the working class is a way of > > > > > > stopping illegal wire tapping. They have passed the law, it is now > > > > > > legal. Instead of fighting the disease you run around putting > > > > > > thousands of baindaids on its symptoms, while the disease spreads > > > > > > even > > > > > > more virulntley right under your nose. > > > > > > > "Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of the conditions of your > > > > > > bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your > > > > > > jurisprudence is but the will of your class made into a law for > > > > > > all, a > > > > > > will whose essential character and direction are determined by the > > > > > > economical conditions of existence of your class." > > > > > > Karl Marx > > > > > > > On Oct 12, 6:46 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > the ACLU did not in any way declare war on Christianity except in > > > > > > > your fevered imagination ! and if you are against protecting the > > > > > > > constitution just come out and say so . > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 1:07 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is true in theory Marge but the ACLU decided to declare > > > > > > > > war on > > > > > > > > Christianity and made many people suspicious of their true > > > > > > > > objective. > > > > > > > > "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; > > > > > > > > in its worst > > > > > > > > state, an intolerable one." The most important function of the > > > > > > > > necessary > > > > > > > > evil is to protect it's citizens. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "margareth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:29 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Dear ACLU Supporter, Help put an end to > > > > > > > > out-of-control > > > > > > > > > government eavesdropping. > > > > > > > > > Those who are watching me would be bored to death. Yet I still > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > like the idea that some old pervert is watching me while I get > > > > > > > > dressed. It is something of a surprise that those who oppose > > > > > > > > government interference in their lives the most, also oppose > > > > > > > > the ACLU, > > > > > > > > which is the organization whose objective is to protect their > > > > > > > > constitutional rights. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 9:12 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > you got something to hide? > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 9:04 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think the gonernment needs to listen to > > > > > > > > > > everyones PRIVATE > > > > > > > > > > affairs einstein? Don't tell me, to fight the truck loads of > > > > > > > > > > terrorists taking over the US? > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 11:20 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > you paranoid too? schizoid they have meds to help with > > > > > > > > > > > this problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:49 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the real bankruptcy of liberalism. The US is > > > > > > > > > > > > not a > > > > > > > > > > > > democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a dirty, filthy plutocracy--rotten to the core. > > > > > > > > > > > > If it was a > > > > > > > > > > > > democracy, the president would have been jailed years > > > > > > > > > > > > ago, and you > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't have two presidential candidates advocate more > > > > > > > > > > > > wars of > > > > > > > > > > > > criminal aggression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > As if they will be successful in stopping wire tapping > > > > > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > > > intergral to the fascist police state that emerges ever > > > > > > > > > > > > more clearly > > > > > > > > > > > > day by day. The wire tapping is central to them in > > > > > > > > > > > > identifying and > > > > > > > > > > > > suppress bourgeoning political dissent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't expect a criminal plutocracy to pay heed to > > > > > > > > > > > > the laws they > > > > > > > > > > > > write and abrogate day in day out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "That's why the ACLU is acting decisively to bring our > > > > > > > > > > > > government's behavior back in line with the > > > > > > > > > > > > Constitution." > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goverment loves pressure politics, as they can just > > > > > > > > > > > > continue to > > > > > > > > > > > > ignore it, and suppress its more outspoken > > > > > > > > > > > > repressentitives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > When will you realize that this system rewards the > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and the > > > > > > > > > > > > greedy with power and wealth and the Obama is as big a > > > > > > > > > > > > slime bag as > > > > > > > > > > > > McCain. The lesser of two evils is still evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:42 pm, "[ a patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the Desk of Anthony D. Romero > > > > > > > > > > > > > Executive Director, ACLU > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help put an end to out-of-control government > > > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=_xkY0BlIEGZnYZKv0F19HQ.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear ACLU Supporter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reports all over the media yesterday and today > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirm what > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've known all along. Surveillance programs touted > > > > > > > > > > > > > as critical > > > > > > > > > > > > > to protect national security have in fact been used > > > > > > > > > > > > > to monitor the > > > > > > > > > > > > > private communications of innocent Americans abroad, > > > > > > > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > > > > > humanitarian workers and U.S. service-members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two former military intercept operators -- the people > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > National > > > > > > > > > > > > > Security Agency (NSA) who actually listen in to > > > > > > > > > > > > > people's calls > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- revealed the news in an ABC report released > > > > > > > > > > > > > yesterday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Contrary to direct assurances from Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration officials > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > NSA monitoring was directed at suspected terrorists, > > > > > > > > > > > > > the intercept > > > > > > > > > > > > > operators report that "hundreds of U.S. citizens > > > > > > > > > > > > > overseas have > > > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropped on as they call friends and family back > > > > > > > > > > > > > home." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NSA even intentionally directed its surveillance > > > > > > > > > > > > > powers at > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-established humanitarian organizations like > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doctors Without > > > > > > > > > > > > > Borders and the International Red Cross. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is outrageous that service men and women and > > > > > > > > > > > > > international aid > > > > > > > > > > > > > workers have had their private conversations > > > > > > > > > > > > > needlessly and > > > > > > > > > > > > > wantonly > > > > > > > > > > > > > invaded by our government. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why the ACLU's lawsuit challenging the > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutionality > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Congress's expansion of the NSA's surveillance > > > > > > > > > > > > > authority under the FISA Amendments Act is so > > > > > > > > > > > > > critical. Our case, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amnesty International v. McConnell -- brought on > > > > > > > > > > > > > behalf of an > > > > > > > > > > > > > impressive array of journalists, human rights > > > > > > > > > > > > > organizations and > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers -- shines a spotlight on the devastating > > > > > > > > > > > > > effect of > > > > > > > > > > > > > unchecked > > > > > > > > > > > > > spying power on Americans doing indispensable work > > > > > > > > > > > > > around the > > > > > > > > > > > > > globe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stand up to warrantless and unnecessary government > > > > > > > > > > > > > spying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > help us put an end to out-of-control government > > > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropping.http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=s_G3HWKZ1ILTedSYHLVDQw.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's more important than ever that you support the > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACLU's > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawsuit and other actions challenging out-of-control > > > > > > > > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > > > > > spying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just as we warned -- and as our FISA lawsuit contends > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- the > > > > > > > > > > > > > NSA's new unchecked surveillance powers invade the > > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy of > > > > > > > > > > > > > innocent Americans and fundamentally undermine human > > > > > > > > > > > > > rights > > > > > > > > > > > > > workers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > journalists and attorneys doing important work around > > > > > > > > > > > > > the globe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > dragnet spying is ineffective, intrusive, unnecessary > > > > > > > > > > > > > and most > > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly unconstitutional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The FISA Amendments Act -- rushed through a timid > > > > > > > > > > > > > pre-election > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congress -- gives the government nearly unfettered > > > > > > > > > > > > > access to > > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans' international communications without any > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful > > > > > > > > > > > > > judicial oversight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As this week's > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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