what a stupid and uniformed statement ! plase post any proof you have that obama is a facist marxist
On Oct 13, 6:45 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as opposed to voting for a facist marxist nobama. > > On Oct 13, 3:25 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > only if you vote for a free trade at all costs republican ! > > > On Oct 12, 5:48 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Whoever you votr for is a vote against the people of America > > > > On Oct 12, 10:32 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > vote for America vote against mccain ! > > > > > On Oct 12, 6:34 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > If you believe in freedom and equality for all oppose impotent > > > > > liberalism > > > > > > On Oct 12, 9:10 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > if you believe in the constitution and civil liberties for all > > > > > > support > > > > > > the ACLU . > > > > > > > On Oct 12, 6:02 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > They have however declared war on political consciousness, by > > > > > > > encouraging the idea that impotent petty-bougeois law and its > > > > > > > philistine psuedo intellectuals (who own their own status in > > > > > > > society > > > > > > > to maintaing this fraud) representitives are going to use the laws > > > > > > > written by the ruling class to supress the working class is a way > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > stopping illegal wire tapping. They have passed the law, it is now > > > > > > > legal. Instead of fighting the disease you run around putting > > > > > > > thousands of baindaids on its symptoms, while the disease spreads > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more virulntley right under your nose. > > > > > > > > "Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of the conditions of your > > > > > > > bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your > > > > > > > jurisprudence is but the will of your class made into a law for > > > > > > > all, a > > > > > > > will whose essential character and direction are determined by the > > > > > > > economical conditions of existence of your class." > > > > > > > Karl Marx > > > > > > > > On Oct 12, 6:46 pm, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > the ACLU did not in any way declare war on Christianity except > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > your fevered imagination ! and if you are against protecting the > > > > > > > > constitution just come out and say so . > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 1:07 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This is true in theory Marge but the ACLU decided to declare > > > > > > > > > war on > > > > > > > > > Christianity and made many people suspicious of their true > > > > > > > > > objective. > > > > > > > > > "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; > > > > > > > > > in its worst > > > > > > > > > state, an intolerable one." The most important function of > > > > > > > > > the necessary > > > > > > > > > evil is to protect it's citizens. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "margareth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:29 AM > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Dear ACLU Supporter, Help put an end to > > > > > > > > > out-of-control > > > > > > > > > > government eavesdropping. > > > > > > > > > > Those who are watching me would be bored to death. Yet I > > > > > > > > > still don't > > > > > > > > > like the idea that some old pervert is watching me while I get > > > > > > > > > dressed. It is something of a surprise that those who oppose > > > > > > > > > government interference in their lives the most, also oppose > > > > > > > > > the ACLU, > > > > > > > > > which is the organization whose objective is to protect their > > > > > > > > > constitutional rights. > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 9:12 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > you got something to hide? > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 9:04 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think the gonernment needs to listen to > > > > > > > > > > > everyones PRIVATE > > > > > > > > > > > affairs einstein? Don't tell me, to fight the truck loads > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > terrorists taking over the US? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 11:20 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > you paranoid too? schizoid they have meds to help with > > > > > > > > > > > > this problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:49 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the real bankruptcy of liberalism. The US is > > > > > > > > > > > > > not a > > > > > > > > > > > > > democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a dirty, filthy plutocracy--rotten to the core. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it was a > > > > > > > > > > > > > democracy, the president would have been jailed years > > > > > > > > > > > > > ago, and you > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't have two presidential candidates advocate > > > > > > > > > > > > > more wars of > > > > > > > > > > > > > criminal aggression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As if they will be successful in stopping wire > > > > > > > > > > > > > tapping which is > > > > > > > > > > > > > intergral to the fascist police state that emerges > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever more clearly > > > > > > > > > > > > > day by day. The wire tapping is central to them in > > > > > > > > > > > > > identifying and > > > > > > > > > > > > > suppress bourgeoning political dissent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't expect a criminal plutocracy to pay heed to > > > > > > > > > > > > > the laws they > > > > > > > > > > > > > write and abrogate day in day out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "That's why the ACLU is acting decisively to bring our > > > > > > > > > > > > > government's behavior back in line with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constitution." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goverment loves pressure politics, as they can > > > > > > > > > > > > > just continue to > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignore it, and suppress its more outspoken > > > > > > > > > > > > > repressentitives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When will you realize that this system rewards the > > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > greedy with power and wealth and the Obama is as big > > > > > > > > > > > > > a slime bag as > > > > > > > > > > > > > McCain. The lesser of two evils is still evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:42 pm, "[ a patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the Desk of Anthony D. Romero > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Executive Director, ACLU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help put an end to out-of-control government > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=_xkY0BlIEGZnYZKv0F19HQ.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear ACLU Supporter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reports all over the media yesterday and today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirm what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've known all along. Surveillance programs touted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as critical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to protect national security have in fact been used > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to monitor the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > private communications of innocent Americans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > abroad, including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > humanitarian workers and U.S. service-members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two former military intercept operators -- the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > National > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Security Agency (NSA) who actually listen in to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people's calls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- revealed the news in an ABC report released > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yesterday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Contrary to direct assurances from Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration officials > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NSA monitoring was directed at suspected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terrorists, the intercept > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operators report that "hundreds of U.S. citizens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overseas have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropped on as they call friends and family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back home." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NSA even intentionally directed its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surveillance powers at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-established humanitarian organizations like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doctors Without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Borders and the International Red Cross. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is outrageous that service men and women and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > international aid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > workers have had their private conversations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needlessly and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wantonly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > invaded by our government. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why the ACLU's lawsuit challenging the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutionality > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Congress's expansion of the NSA's surveillance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > authority under the FISA Amendments Act is so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > critical. Our case, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amnesty International v. McConnell -- brought on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behalf of an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impressive array of journalists, human rights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organizations and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers -- shines a spotlight on the devastating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > effect of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unchecked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spying power on Americans doing indispensable work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > around the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > globe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stand up to warrantless and unnecessary government > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help us put an end to out-of-control government > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eavesdropping.http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=s_G3HWKZ1ILTedSYHLVDQw.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's more important than ever that you support the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACLU's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawsuit and other actions challenging > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out-of-control government > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just as we warned -- and as our FISA lawsuit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contends -- the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NSA's new unchecked surveillance powers invade the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > innocent Americans and fundamentally undermine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > human rights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > workers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > journalists and attorneys doing important work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > around the globe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dragnet spying is ineffective, intrusive, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unnecessary and most > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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