Again, go and preach this to your Islamist peeps. Americans are tired of Anti-American rhetoric and the Obamaesque/Isolationist position of weakness.
No one is clamoring for the American military to jump into the fray with military, but why we haven't at least attacked the massive convoys of American military trucks, guns and equipment heading to Syria from Iraq by ISIS is beyond most rational thinking Americans. Even Ron Paul and Rand Paul are baffled. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:55 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > First, an Islamist state would pose a grave security threat to the United > States and other Western nations. > --- > opinion noted ... not shared. > > The Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has already > seized much of the northern part of the country and is moving toward > Baghdad. > --- > not an American concern. > > ISIS could use Iraq and Syria as a springboard for terrorist attacks > abroad, just as al Qaeda used Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as a base for > its 9/11 attacks. > --- > retaliation due to US intervention and destabilization efforts for cheaper > oil and israel. > > Second, the turmoil could derail the U.S. economic recovery if Iraqi oil > production plummets. Oil prices might skyrocket, which would then kill the > recovery and even cause a recession. > --- > pay the market price or be an underhanded thief. Your choice. > > Third, the crisis, a U.S. foreign policy debacle, might damage American > prestige. > --- > yeah ... American exceptionalism and imperialism so prestigious. > > The United States spent enormous sums in Iraq. > --- > we know who promoted it and why. > > The Obama administration pulled out of the country in 2011, apparently > thinking Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki could handle the situation. > Turns out it was wrong. If Iraq collapses, "it would arguably be one of the > worst foreign policy disasters in the history of the country," The Times > notes. > --- > hogwash. > Americans do not owe Iraq security and our tax dollars shouldn't be > rebuilding that shit hole. > fund your own wars for non-US interests. > > Fourth, the conflict might damage military morale. More than 4,400 > Americans died fighting in Iraq and almost 32,000 were injured, many > seriously, The Times reports, citing Pentagon figures. One in five soldiers > has post-traumatic stress disorder. American veterans could become dejected > and angry if they believe their efforts were done for nothing. > --- > not nothing ... war profits and imperialism. > they had a choice. > > Finally, the war might frighten financial markets, sending stocks > tumbling, especially if the war spreads. > --- > fear tactics only work on those who drink the kool aid. > > Shiite Muslim Iran may enter the war to oppose the Sunni ISIS, and the > conflict could cause a humanitarian crisis, as huge numbers of refugees > attempt to flee the violence. > --- > not an American concern. > but warmongers are licking their chops and stackin' paper. > > On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:12:48 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Iraq-United-States- >> oil-collapse/2014/06/16/id/577316/?ns_mail_uid=1469942& >> ns_mail_job=1573491_06172014&promo_code=1bni16sd >> >> >> Fiscal Times: The Collapse of Iraq Could Impact America >> >> Tuesday, 17 Jun 2014 07:20 AM >> >> By Michael Kling >> >> Civil war in Iraq could hurt the United States in several ways. >> >> In fact, *The Fiscal Times* >> <http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/06/15/How-Collapse-Iraq-Would-Affect-America> >> lists five ways the collapse of Iraq could hurt the United States. >> >> First, an Islamist state would pose a grave security threat to the United >> States and other Western nations. The Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq >> and Syria (ISIS) has already seized much of the northern part of the >> country and is moving toward Baghdad. >> >> <https://w3.newsmax.com/LP/Finance/TDM/TDM-Absolute-Financial?promo_code=1bni16sd> >> ISIS could use Iraq and Syria as a springboard for terrorist attacks >> abroad, just as al Qaeda used Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as a base for >> its 9/11 attacks. >> >> Second, the turmoil could derail the U.S. economic recovery if Iraqi oil >> production plummets. Oil prices might skyrocket, which would then kill the >> recovery and even cause a recession. >> >> Third, the crisis, a U.S. foreign policy debacle, might damage American >> prestige. The United States spent enormous sums in Iraq. The Obama >> administration pulled out of the country in 2011, apparently thinking Iraqi >> Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki could handle the situation. Turns out it was >> wrong. If Iraq collapses, "it would arguably be one of the worst foreign >> policy disasters in the history of the country," The Times notes. >> >> Fourth, the conflict might damage military morale. More than 4,400 >> Americans died fighting in Iraq and almost 32,000 were injured, many >> seriously, The Times reports, citing Pentagon figures. One in five soldiers >> has post-traumatic stress disorder. American veterans could become dejected >> and angry if they believe their efforts were done for nothing. >> >> Finally, the war might frighten financial markets, sending stocks >> tumbling, especially if the war spreads. Shiite Muslim Iran may enter the >> war to oppose the Sunni ISIS, and the conflict could cause a humanitarian >> crisis, as huge numbers of refugees attempt to flee the violence. >> >> Other observers worry that the war could squash the economic recovery. >> >> Iraq's oil minister has said oil wells are safe in the Shiite-dominated >> areas in the south, and Saudi Arabia officials said they could compensate >> for a drop in Iraqi production if needed, *The Telegraph* >> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10893255/Iraq-oil-shock-could-kill-world-economic-recovery-experts-warn.html> >> reports. >> >> Still, many experts remain worried. >> >> "The worst-case scenario is that we see production from Iraq slip down to >> levels in the last Gulf war, then oil could spike $20 a barrel very >> quickly," Ole Hansen, head of commodity strategy at Saxo Bank, tells The >> Telegraph. >> >> "In that scenario, the entire economic recovery, which is still fragile, >> could stall, and we could even slip back into recession in some regions." >> >> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> ------------------------------ >> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> Visit Your Group >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMnUyaWRiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MDMwMzE0NTQ-> >> >> >> [image: Yahoo! 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