No fear here Plain Ol', just observations and laughter.
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > go and preach this to your Islamist peeps. > --- > I don't have any islamist peeps. > > > Americans are tired of Anti-American rhetoric > --- > then stop attacking other nations for non-American interests. > the US interventionist policy creates anti-American rhetoric and > terrorists. > > > and the Obamaesque/Isolationist position of weakness. > --- > you fear has been noted again. > blessed are the peacemakers. > > No one is clamoring for the American military to jump into the fray with > military, but why we haven't at least attacked the massive convoys of > American military trucks, guns and equipment heading to Syria from Iraq by > ISIS is beyond most rational thinking Americans. > --- > Americans are not responsible for Iraq's security. > fund and fight your own wars for oil, power and israel. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism > > > > Even Ron Paul and Rand Paul are baffled. > --- > they are both zionists. > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:47:28 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > >> Again, go and preach this to your Islamist peeps. Americans are tired >> of Anti-American rhetoric and the Obamaesque/Isolationist position of >> weakness. >> >> No one is clamoring for the American military to jump into the fray with >> military, but why we haven't at least attacked the massive convoys of >> American military trucks, guns and equipment heading to Syria from Iraq by >> ISIS is beyond most rational thinking Americans. Even Ron Paul and Rand >> Paul are baffled. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:55 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> First, an Islamist state would pose a grave security threat to the >>> United States and other Western nations. >>> --- >>> opinion noted ... not shared. >>> >>> The Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has already >>> seized much of the northern part of the country and is moving toward >>> Baghdad. >>> --- >>> not an American concern. >>> >>> ISIS could use Iraq and Syria as a springboard for terrorist attacks >>> abroad, just as al Qaeda used Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as a base for >>> its 9/11 attacks. >>> --- >>> retaliation due to US intervention and destabilization efforts for >>> cheaper oil and israel. >>> >>> Second, the turmoil could derail the U.S. economic recovery if Iraqi oil >>> production plummets. Oil prices might skyrocket, which would then kill the >>> recovery and even cause a recession. >>> --- >>> pay the market price or be an underhanded thief. Your choice. >>> >>> Third, the crisis, a U.S. foreign policy debacle, might damage American >>> prestige. >>> --- >>> yeah ... American exceptionalism and imperialism so prestigious. >>> >>> The United States spent enormous sums in Iraq. >>> --- >>> we know who promoted it and why. >>> >>> The Obama administration pulled out of the country in 2011, apparently >>> thinking Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki could handle the situation. >>> Turns out it was wrong. If Iraq collapses, "it would arguably be one of the >>> worst foreign policy disasters in the history of the country," The Times >>> notes. >>> --- >>> hogwash. >>> Americans do not owe Iraq security and our tax dollars shouldn't be >>> rebuilding that shit hole. >>> fund your own wars for non-US interests. >>> >>> Fourth, the conflict might damage military morale. More than 4,400 >>> Americans died fighting in Iraq and almost 32,000 were injured, many >>> seriously, The Times reports, citing Pentagon figures. One in five soldiers >>> has post-traumatic stress disorder. American veterans could become dejected >>> and angry if they believe their efforts were done for nothing. >>> --- >>> not nothing ... war profits and imperialism. >>> they had a choice. >>> >>> Finally, the war might frighten financial markets, sending stocks >>> tumbling, especially if the war spreads. >>> --- >>> fear tactics only work on those who drink the kool aid. >>> >>> Shiite Muslim Iran may enter the war to oppose the Sunni ISIS, and the >>> conflict could cause a humanitarian crisis, as huge numbers of refugees >>> attempt to flee the violence. >>> --- >>> not an American concern. >>> but warmongers are licking their chops and stackin' paper. >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:12:48 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Iraq-United-States-oil- >>>> collapse/2014/06/16/id/577316/?ns_mail_uid=1469942&ns_mail_ >>>> job=1573491_06172014&promo_code=1bni16sd >>>> >>>> >>>> Fiscal Times: The Collapse of Iraq Could Impact America >>>> >>>> Tuesday, 17 Jun 2014 07:20 AM >>>> >>>> By Michael Kling >>>> >>>> Civil war in Iraq could hurt the United States in several ways. >>>> >>>> In fact, *The Fiscal Times* >>>> <http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/06/15/How-Collapse-Iraq-Would-Affect-America> >>>> lists five ways the collapse of Iraq could hurt the United States. >>>> >>>> First, an Islamist state would pose a grave security threat to the >>>> United States and other Western nations. The Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State >>>> of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has already seized much of the northern part of >>>> the country and is moving toward Baghdad. >>>> >>>> <https://w3.newsmax.com/LP/Finance/TDM/TDM-Absolute-Financial?promo_code=1bni16sd> >>>> ISIS could use Iraq and Syria as a springboard for terrorist attacks >>>> abroad, just as al Qaeda used Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as a base for >>>> its 9/11 attacks. >>>> >>>> Second, the turmoil could derail the U.S. economic recovery if Iraqi >>>> oil production plummets. Oil prices might skyrocket, which would then kill >>>> the recovery and even cause a recession. >>>> >>>> Third, the crisis, a U.S. foreign policy debacle, might damage American >>>> prestige. The United States spent enormous sums in Iraq. The Obama >>>> administration pulled out of the country in 2011, apparently thinking Iraqi >>>> Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki could handle the situation. Turns out it was >>>> wrong. If Iraq collapses, "it would arguably be one of the worst foreign >>>> policy disasters in the history of the country," The Times notes. >>>> >>>> Fourth, the conflict might damage military morale. More than 4,400 >>>> Americans died fighting in Iraq and almost 32,000 were injured, many >>>> seriously, The Times reports, citing Pentagon figures. One in five soldiers >>>> has post-traumatic stress disorder. American veterans could become dejected >>>> and angry if they believe their efforts were done for nothing. >>>> >>>> Finally, the war might frighten financial markets, sending stocks >>>> tumbling, especially if the war spreads. Shiite Muslim Iran may enter the >>>> war to oppose the Sunni ISIS, and the conflict could cause a humanitarian >>>> crisis, as huge numbers of refugees attempt to flee the violence. >>>> >>>> Other observers worry that the war could squash the economic recovery. >>>> >>>> Iraq's oil minister has said oil wells are safe in the Shiite-dominated >>>> areas in the south, and Saudi Arabia officials said they could compensate >>>> for a drop in Iraqi production if needed, *The Telegraph* >>>> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10893255/Iraq-oil-shock-could-kill-world-economic-recovery-experts-warn.html> >>>> reports. >>>> >>>> Still, many experts remain worried. >>>> >>>> "The worst-case scenario is that we see production from Iraq slip down >>>> to levels in the last Gulf war, then oil could spike $20 a barrel very >>>> quickly," Ole Hansen, head of commodity strategy at Saxo Bank, tells The >>>> Telegraph. >>>> >>>> "In that scenario, the entire economic recovery, which is still >>>> fragile, could stall, and we could even slip back into recession in some >>>> regions." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> __._,_.___ >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> Visit Your Group >>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMnUyaWRiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MDMwMzE0NTQ-> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Yahoo! 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