ACORN endorsed obama so what ? he isn't a part of ACORN and they are not part of his campaign !
On Oct 25, 9:42 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More HITLER_LIKE propaganda here Hollywood??? This time trashing what > YOU CLAIM your opponent said but did not??? A history lesson > > Little Mike > > >>> ACORN is non partisan action group who work in the community's > >>> registering voters as well as other things such as fighting to remove > >>> crack houses from neighborhoods . > > Except ACORN endorsed Obama, and has campaigned for him. Obama has a > 20 year history with ACORN including funding it publicly. Now my > reply was > > >>> ACORN is a partisan group... You are doing Hitler-like propaganda > >>> here... > > You wrote > > >>> What is Hitler-like about it? > > "Hitler-like propaganda" has a clear meaning. Go read your Gobbels > who is quite articulate concerning the when, how, where, and why of > propaganda... In short it is meant to advance a political agenda by > lies and partial truths through the appearance of mantle of truth... > In little mikes case,, it was the claim ACORN was a NON-PARTISAN > group, thereby seeking to imply it had no political agenda... Little > mike lied to cover up ACORN's fraud and partisan agenda... > > I countered by > > >>> Propaganda. Sometime you do quite often. > > Then you twisted and mangled my words beyond all possible reasonable > understanding by claiming I was dumb because I said sometime which I > didn't. > > >>> Adolph Hitler invented propaganda? You're dumber than I thought. > > Now you CLAIM I said or implied Hitler invented propaganda... > Clearly I did NOT... One of Gobbels methodologies was the do EXACTLY > what you did, try to create a plausible straw-man to attack your > opponent... As I suggested, your tactics ARE Hitler-like, and I > might add not conducive to civil and honest debate... > > On Oct 24, 7:21 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > jgg, > > > Your a total goof. Hitler was a war-time veteran, an infantryman. I am > > a war tme veteran and was also an infantryman. So, I am Hitler-like? > > Your statement was illogical to say the least. > > > On Oct 24, 4:17 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The rabid one here is Hollywood and you for NOT BEING ABLE to admit > > > HITLER-LIKE is not HITLER-INVENTED > > > > On Oct 24, 3:31 am, "moveon.org mike532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > not dumb just a rabid right wing supporter of the GOP . > > > > > On Oct 23, 6:14 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > Adolph Hitler invented propaganda? You're dumber than I thought. > > > > > > On Oct 23, 4:27 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Propaganda. Sometime you do quite often. > > > > > > > On Oct 22, 5:15 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > > > What is Hitler-like about it? > > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 9:10 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ACORN is a partisan group... You are doing Hitler-like > > > > > > > > propaganda > > > > > > > > here... > > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2:59 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ACORN is non partisan action group who work in the community's > > > > > > > > > registering voters as well as other things such as fighting > > > > > > > > > to remove > > > > > > > > > crack houses from neighborhoods . > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2:53 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You conveniently forget that the US attorneys > > > > > > > > > > scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General > > > > > > > > > > Alberto > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales arose from a Republican attempt to suppress the > > > > > > > > > > vote. A > > > > > > > > > > number of the attorneys were sacked because they did not > > > > > > > > > > comply with > > > > > > > > > > Republican pressure to expedite the prosecution of voter > > > > > > > > > > fraud cases, > > > > > > > > > > so that they would take place before the 2006 elections. > > > > > > > > > > For example, > > > > > > > > > > the US Department of Justice has found that US Attorney > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > Iglesias > > > > > > > > > > was dismissed for failing to investigate a local ACORN > > > > > > > > > > chapter in New > > > > > > > > > > Mexico. > > > > > > > > > > > More craven than the Republican attacks on ACORN has been > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cowardly > > > > > > > > > > response of Barack Obama and the Democratic Party. In > > > > > > > > > > response to > > > > > > > > > > McCain’s attack on ACORN, Obama disowned any relationship > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > organization, which has worked feverishly on his behalf for > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > Moments earlier he had disowned Bill Ayers, the former > > > > > > > > > > radical > > > > > > > > > > routinely condemned by Republicans as a terrorist. Shortly > > > > > > > > > > afterward > > > > > > > > > > he listed those he considers his > > > > > > > > > > true associates. These include the world’s richest man, > > > > > > > > > > Warren > > > > > > > > > > Buffett, and former Federal Reserve > > > > > > > > > > Board head Paul Volcker, whose high interest > > > > > > > > > > rate “shock therapy” in 1979 was responsible for > > > > > > > > > > devastating many of > > > > > > > > > > the communities where ACORN now seeks to register > > > > > > > > > > impoverished > > > > > > > > > > voters. > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 15, 8:03 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It isn't about just the potential fraudulent Votes being > > > > > > > > > > > cast, it is > > > > > > > > > > > also about Polling Data and the ability of the Election > > > > > > > > > > > people to do > > > > > > > > > > > their Jobs... > > > > > > > > > > > > Although it is no surprise that Idiots, like little Liar > > > > > > > > > > > mikey, would > > > > > > > > > > > try to dismiss this FRAUD because it is his Party that is > > > > > > > > > > > attempting > > > > > > > > > > > to pull it off, and failing miserably. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 15, 1:53 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A Dose of Reality on the ACORN > > > > > > > > > > > > Hysteriahttp://www.truthout.org/101408VA > > > > > > > > > > > > New voter location cards are being sent to over half of > > > > > > > > > > > > the voters in > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalamazoo, Michigan, notifying them of a change in > > > > > > > > > > > > their poll or > > > > > > > > > > > > precinct location. (Photo: Jill McLane Baker / > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalamazoo Gazette) > > > > > > > > > > > > It's worth taking a moment to step back from the > > > > > > > > > > > > slew of charges > > > > > > > > > > > > leveled over the last week at ACORN, the > > > > > > > > > > > > community-organizing group > > > > > > > > > > > > that Republicans and the McCain campaign have been > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to turn into > > > > > > > > > > > > a bogeyman for fears about vote fraud (and, of course, > > > > > > > > > > > > tie to Barack > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > The GOP has accused ACORN of submitting fraudulent > > > > > > > > > > > > voter > > > > > > > > > > > > registration forms numbering in the hundreds or > > > > > > > > > > > > thousands, in > > > > > > > > > > > > battleground states including Ohio, Indiana, Nevada, > > > > > > > > > > > > and Missouri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the most important point that's getting lost in > > > > > > > > > > > > the Fox- > > > > > > > > > > > > generated hysteria is that, according to voting > > > > > > > > > > > > experts, even when > > > > > > > > > > > > fraudulent voter registration forms are submitted, they > > > > > > > > > > > > virtually > > > > > > > > > > > > never lead to fraudulent votes being cast. Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > Hasen, a law > > > > > > > > > > > > professor at Loyola and an authority on voting law, > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote in a 2007 op- > > > > > > > > > > > > ed published last year in the Dallas Morning News and > > > > > > > > > > > > noted recently > > > > > > > > > > > > by TPM, that "the idea of massive polling-place fraud > > > > > > > > > > > > (through the use > > > > > > > > > > > > of inflated voter rolls) is inherently incredible," > > > > > > > > > > > > because of the > > > > > > > > > > > > sheer logistical challenges it would require to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > out on a large > > > > > > > > > > > > scale. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In many states, ACORN is required by law to turn in > > > > > > > > > > > > all the forms > > > > > > > > > > > > it collects, though the law differs from state to law, > > > > > > > > > > > > according to > > > > > > > > > > > > experts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACORN has consistently said that it flags > > > > > > > > > > > > suspicious forms for > > > > > > > > > > > > election officials. Indeed, in Nevada where last week > > > > > > > > > > > > an ACORN office > > > > > > > > > > > > was raided in an investigation headed by the Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > of State, ACORN > > > > > > > > > > > > was already cooperating with authorities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to a statement from the group which has > > > > > > > > > > > > not been > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed by state officials, in July, ACORN set up a > > > > > > > > > > > > meeting with > > > > > > > > > > > > county elections officials and the Secretary of State's > > > > > > > > > > > > office to urge > > > > > > > > > > > > them to take action on information ACORN had provided. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since then, > > > > > > > > > > > > "ACORN has provided officials with copies and - in some > > > > > > > > > > > > cases - second > > > > > > > > > > > > copies of many of the personnel records and the > > > > > > > > > > > > 'problem card > > > > > > > > > > > > packages' and cover sheets with which we originally > > > > > > > > > > > > identified the > > > > > > > > > > > > problem cards." > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's also worth noting that similar allegations > > > > > > > > > > > > were made against > > > > > > > > > > > > ACORN in the last few election cycles, and several > > > > > > > > > > > > investigations were > > > > > > > > > > > > conducted, none of which found evidence of widespread > > > > > > > > > > > > voter fraud. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many of these were conducted by US attorneys, who were > > > > > > > > > > > > pressured by > > > > > > > > > > > > GOP political figures to investigate the issue, then > > > > > > > > > > > > fired after they > > > > > > > > > > > > failed to come up with sufficient evidence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So as the GOP campaign to make an issue out of > > > > > > > > > > > > ACORN continues - > > > > > > > > > > > > and we'll be keeping you posted as it does - remember > > > > > > > > > > > > that the number > > > > > > > > > > > > of fraudulent votes that will be cast in November as a > > > > > > > > > > > > result of the > > > > > > > > > > > > group's voter-registration activities is close to zero. > > > > > > > > > > > > But the number > > > > > > > > > > > > of valid voters who could potentially have obstacles > > > > > > > > > > > > placed in their > > > > > > > > > > > > way of voting, as a result of the Republican campaign, > > > > > > > > > > > > is far larger.- Hide quoted > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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