lady ACORN is a non partisan group of community activists !
what is Hitler like is your attempt at using propaganda to discredit
them .
On Oct 29, 1:35 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Last time Hollywood
>
> 1) I used the phrase Hitler-like in referring to little mikes "claim
> that ACORN is "non-partisan".   Why is it Hitler-like???  Repetition
> of a lie does not make it true...  Obama and ACORN have decade old
> ties, ACORN endorsed Obama , and ACORN activity in voter drives is
> almost always if not always associated with LW "Progressive" or
> Democratic candidates...  ACORN is a partisan non-profit group that
> promotes a very specific ideology...
>
> I could have used Stalin-like, same principle...  Repeated lies does
> not make truth revised true...
>
> 2) You jumped in and said I claim "Hitler-Invented" and then with
> little mike went into your trash the dumb RW mode...   Misquoting me
> and then using your straw man as a mean to go into the political
> tactic of trash-talking and personal destruction of ones opponent ALSO
> was used by Hitler and Stalin with the intent to dismiss all political
> opinion except their own.   And this is exactly what you did in this
> case...
>
> 3) Civil discourse involves logic, reason and RESPECT for ones
> opponent...  What you claim is the "rough nature" of political
> discourse" is against the official statements of Obama precisely
> because it is not civil discourse but the old politics of personal
> destruction...   That Obama and his campaign routinely allows without
> condemnation of very public display by his supporters of his opponents
> shows his deeds DID NOT MATCH HIS  WORDS...  Likewise, it is clear you
> do not favor civil discourse because of your deliberate twisting of
> word and then taking offense when someone points out your lack of
> reason, civility, or logic...
>
> 4) You were not being analytical but being a dishonest asshole by
> deliberate twisting of words even after it was explained...And yes,
> Hitler and Stalin did the same...
>
> So in this, in this thread you are Hitler-like...  Don't like the
> term, stop using his propaganda tactics.
>
> On Oct 29, 12:21 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > jgg,
>
> > I was NOT the one who made the initial referance to Hilter, That was
> > YOU.
> > Personal destruction? What the hell are you talking about? Your waaaay
> > too sensitive to be playing this game. And I WAS being analytical.
> > What do you think is the goal, the objective, of propaganda, public
> > relations, marketing, etc. Are you REALLY such an innocent?
>
> > On Oct 29, 11:03 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Call it propaganda, call it marketing, call it public relations, all
> > > the same.
>
> > > Hollywood, I am being ANALYTICAL when I call it Hitler-like...  Is it
> > > odious, you bet..  The one who did it on this thread WAS YOU....  And
> > > that is the point...  You complain about how the Right does not engage
> > > in civil debate.   I did - and you responded with the tactics of
> > > personal destruction...
>
> > > Is it destructive and to use YOUR word "evil"...  Yes...  But you must
> > > first admit to your deeds before you can or will stop...  We all can
> > > be redeemed...
>
> > > >>> BOTH political parties are full of deceit and dishonesty.
>
> > > Again I am speaking about how YOU conducted youself, not a faceless
> > > political party...   This is of course unless you are a flusterated
> > > DNC operative...
>
> > > On Oct 29, 1:41 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > jgg,
>
> > > > Oh bullshit. I'm suppossed to take seriously someone who gets all
> > > > hysterical and starts talking about HITLER-like propaganda? As if
> > > > propaganda, twisting facts for political rerasons were something
> > > > completely out of the ordinary? Something so EVIL and un-Ameican that
> > > > it should be connected with the odius name of Hitler? Call it
> > > > propaganda, call it marketing, call it public relations, all the same.
> > > > You never read any Edward Bernays? SHEEET, propaganda, in one form or
> > > > another, is as American as kissing babies on the campaign trail. Grow
> > > > the fuck up, BOTH political parties are full of deceit and dishonesty.
> > > > Your feigned moral outrage is laughable.
>
> > > > On Oct 28, 10:57 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Then you admit to being a shifty eyed politician???  This claim was
> > > > > WHAT YOU JUST DID, not a shifty eyed politician....   Hollywood you
> > > > > are a prime example of the politics of self-destruction that Obama
> > > > > supporters and the Left engage in...   The tendency of trash talking
> > > > > and demeaning your opponent for appearance sake rather than debate
> > > > > CIVILLY issues using facts and reasoned logic...   To twist the
> > > > > meaning of "Hitler-like" to Hitler-created" and then claim I am the
> > > > > dummy IS PART AND PARCEL of the politics of self-destruction that
> > > > > Hitler did so well...
>
> > > > > The Democrats used the same tactic on "Joe the Plumber" and Sarah
> > > > > Palin rather than serious debate the administrative experience of
> > > > > Obama during his days of the CAC...   Hollywood, the problem here is
> > > > > the deceit and dishonesty of the Left AND YOU DEFENSE of that deceit
> > > > > and dishonesty...
>
> > > > > On Oct 25, 10:52 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > jgg,
>
> > > > > > Politicians lie and twist the truth in order to further their
> > > > > > political agenda?
> > > > > > OH NO, you just have to be fucking shitting me! Why I never heard of
> > > > > > such a thing, the SHOCK!, my poor old heart! What next? You going to
> > > > > > tell me Santa Claus isn't real?
>
> > > > > > On Oct 25, 8:42 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > More HITLER_LIKE propaganda here Hollywood???  This time trashing 
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > YOU CLAIM your opponent said but did not???  A history lesson
>
> > > > > > >  Little Mike
>
> > > > > > > >>> ACORN is non partisan action group who work in the 
> > > > > > > >>> community's registering voters as well as other things such 
> > > > > > > >>> as fighting to remove crack houses from neighborhoods  .
>
> > > > > > > Except ACORN endorsed Obama, and has campaigned for him.  Obama 
> > > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > 20 year history with ACORN including funding it publicly.  Now my
> > > > > > > reply was
>
> > > > > > > >>> ACORN is a partisan group...   You are doing Hitler-like 
> > > > > > > >>> propaganda here...
>
> > > > > > > You wrote
>
> > > > > > > >>> What is Hitler-like about it?
>
> > > > > > > "Hitler-like propaganda" has a clear meaning.   Go read your 
> > > > > > > Gobbels
> > > > > > > who is quite articulate concerning the when, how, where, and why 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > propaganda...   In short it is meant to advance a political 
> > > > > > > agenda by
> > > > > > > lies and partial truths through the appearance of mantle of 
> > > > > > > truth...
> > > > > > > In little mikes case,, it was the claim ACORN was a NON-PARTISAN
> > > > > > > group, thereby seeking to imply it had no political agenda...  
> > > > > > > Little
> > > > > > > mike lied to cover up ACORN's fraud and partisan agenda...
>
> > > > > > > I countered by
>
> > > > > > > >>> Propaganda.   Sometime you do  quite often.
>
> > > > > > > Then you twisted and mangled my words beyond all possible 
> > > > > > > reasonable
> > > > > > > understanding by claiming I was dumb because I said sometime 
> > > > > > > which I
> > > > > > > didn't.
>
> > > > > > > >>> Adolph Hitler invented propaganda? You're dumber than I 
> > > > > > > >>> thought.
>
> > > > > > > Now you CLAIM I said or implied Hitler invented propaganda...
> > > > > > > Clearly I did NOT...  One of Gobbels methodologies was the do 
> > > > > > > EXACTLY
> > > > > > > what you did, try to create a plausible straw-man to attack your
> > > > > > > opponent...   As I suggested, your tactics ARE Hitler-like, and I
> > > > > > > might add not conducive to civil and honest debate...
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 24, 7:21 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > jgg,
>
> > > > > > > > Your a total goof. Hitler was a war-time veteran, an 
> > > > > > > > infantryman. I am
> > > > > > > > a war tme veteran and was also an infantryman. So, I am 
> > > > > > > > Hitler-like?
> > > > > > > > Your statement was illogical to say the least.
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 4:17 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > The rabid one here is Hollywood and you for NOT BEING ABLE to 
> > > > > > > > > admit
> > > > > > > > > HITLER-LIKE is not HITLER-INVENTED
>
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 3:31 am, "moveon.org mike532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > not dumb just a rabid right wing supporter of the GOP .
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 6:14 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > jgg,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Adolph Hitler invented propaganda? You're dumber than I 
> > > > > > > > > > > thought.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 4:27 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Propaganda.   Sometime you do  quite often.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 22, 5:15 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is Hitler-like about it?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 9:10 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACORN is a partisan group...   You are doing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitler-like propaganda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > here...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2:59 am, "[ the last  patriotic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Republican  ]"
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACORN is non partisan action group who work in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the community's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > registering voters as well as other things such 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as fighting to remove
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crack houses from neighborhoods  .
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2:53 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You conveniently forget that the US attorneys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General Alberto
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales arose from a Republican attempt to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suppress the vote. A
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > number of the
>
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