jgg, You SWEAR it's the last time? Promise?
I did not claim you said Hilter invented propaganda. WTF are you talking about? You want to talk about "logic, reason and RESPECT for one's opponents" and then in the same thread refer to be a a "dishonest asshole"? Can you spell "hypoctite" sweetheart? On Oct 29, 12:35 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last time Hollywood > > 1) I used the phrase Hitler-like in referring to little mikes "claim > that ACORN is "non-partisan". Why is it Hitler-like??? Repetition > of a lie does not make it true... Obama and ACORN have decade old > ties, ACORN endorsed Obama , and ACORN activity in voter drives is > almost always if not always associated with LW "Progressive" or > Democratic candidates... ACORN is a partisan non-profit group that > promotes a very specific ideology... > > I could have used Stalin-like, same principle... Repeated lies does > not make truth revised true... > > 2) You jumped in and said I claim "Hitler-Invented" and then with > little mike went into your trash the dumb RW mode... Misquoting me > and then using your straw man as a mean to go into the political > tactic of trash-talking and personal destruction of ones opponent ALSO > was used by Hitler and Stalin with the intent to dismiss all political > opinion except their own. And this is exactly what you did in this > case... > > 3) Civil discourse involves logic, reason and RESPECT for ones > opponent... What you claim is the "rough nature" of political > discourse" is against the official statements of Obama precisely > because it is not civil discourse but the old politics of personal > destruction... That Obama and his campaign routinely allows without > condemnation of very public display by his supporters of his opponents > shows his deeds DID NOT MATCH HIS WORDS... Likewise, it is clear you > do not favor civil discourse because of your deliberate twisting of > word and then taking offense when someone points out your lack of > reason, civility, or logic... > > 4) You were not being analytical but being a dishonest asshole by > deliberate twisting of words even after it was explained...And yes, > Hitler and Stalin did the same... > > So in this, in this thread you are Hitler-like... Don't like the > term, stop using his propaganda tactics. > > On Oct 29, 12:21 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > jgg, > > > I was NOT the one who made the initial referance to Hilter, That was > > YOU. > > Personal destruction? What the hell are you talking about? Your waaaay > > too sensitive to be playing this game. And I WAS being analytical. > > What do you think is the goal, the objective, of propaganda, public > > relations, marketing, etc. Are you REALLY such an innocent? > > > On Oct 29, 11:03 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Call it propaganda, call it marketing, call it public relations, all > > > the same. > > > > Hollywood, I am being ANALYTICAL when I call it Hitler-like... Is it > > > odious, you bet.. The one who did it on this thread WAS YOU.... And > > > that is the point... You complain about how the Right does not engage > > > in civil debate. I did - and you responded with the tactics of > > > personal destruction... > > > > Is it destructive and to use YOUR word "evil"... Yes... But you must > > > first admit to your deeds before you can or will stop... We all can > > > be redeemed... > > > > >>> BOTH political parties are full of deceit and dishonesty. > > > > Again I am speaking about how YOU conducted youself, not a faceless > > > political party... This is of course unless you are a flusterated > > > DNC operative... > > > > On Oct 29, 1:41 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > jgg, > > > > > Oh bullshit. I'm suppossed to take seriously someone who gets all > > > > hysterical and starts talking about HITLER-like propaganda? As if > > > > propaganda, twisting facts for political rerasons were something > > > > completely out of the ordinary? Something so EVIL and un-Ameican that > > > > it should be connected with the odius name of Hitler? Call it > > > > propaganda, call it marketing, call it public relations, all the same. > > > > You never read any Edward Bernays? SHEEET, propaganda, in one form or > > > > another, is as American as kissing babies on the campaign trail. Grow > > > > the fuck up, BOTH political parties are full of deceit and dishonesty. > > > > Your feigned moral outrage is laughable. > > > > > On Oct 28, 10:57 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Then you admit to being a shifty eyed politician??? This claim was > > > > > WHAT YOU JUST DID, not a shifty eyed politician.... Hollywood you > > > > > are a prime example of the politics of self-destruction that Obama > > > > > supporters and the Left engage in... The tendency of trash talking > > > > > and demeaning your opponent for appearance sake rather than debate > > > > > CIVILLY issues using facts and reasoned logic... To twist the > > > > > meaning of "Hitler-like" to Hitler-created" and then claim I am the > > > > > dummy IS PART AND PARCEL of the politics of self-destruction that > > > > > Hitler did so well... > > > > > > The Democrats used the same tactic on "Joe the Plumber" and Sarah > > > > > Palin rather than serious debate the administrative experience of > > > > > Obama during his days of the CAC... Hollywood, the problem here is > > > > > the deceit and dishonesty of the Left AND YOU DEFENSE of that deceit > > > > > and dishonesty... > > > > > > On Oct 25, 10:52 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > > Politicians lie and twist the truth in order to further their > > > > > > political agenda? > > > > > > OH NO, you just have to be fucking shitting me! Why I never heard of > > > > > > such a thing, the SHOCK!, my poor old heart! What next? You going to > > > > > > tell me Santa Claus isn't real? > > > > > > > On Oct 25, 8:42 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > More HITLER_LIKE propaganda here Hollywood??? This time trashing > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > YOU CLAIM your opponent said but did not??? A history lesson > > > > > > > > Little Mike > > > > > > > > >>> ACORN is non partisan action group who work in the > > > > > > > >>> community's registering voters as well as other things such > > > > > > > >>> as fighting to remove crack houses from neighborhoods . > > > > > > > > Except ACORN endorsed Obama, and has campaigned for him. Obama > > > > > > > has a > > > > > > > 20 year history with ACORN including funding it publicly. Now my > > > > > > > reply was > > > > > > > > >>> ACORN is a partisan group... You are doing Hitler-like > > > > > > > >>> propaganda here... > > > > > > > > You wrote > > > > > > > > >>> What is Hitler-like about it? > > > > > > > > "Hitler-like propaganda" has a clear meaning. Go read your > > > > > > > Gobbels > > > > > > > who is quite articulate concerning the when, how, where, and why > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > propaganda... In short it is meant to advance a political > > > > > > > agenda by > > > > > > > lies and partial truths through the appearance of mantle of > > > > > > > truth... > > > > > > > In little mikes case,, it was the claim ACORN was a NON-PARTISAN > > > > > > > group, thereby seeking to imply it had no political agenda... > > > > > > > Little > > > > > > > mike lied to cover up ACORN's fraud and partisan agenda... > > > > > > > > I countered by > > > > > > > > >>> Propaganda. Sometime you do quite often. > > > > > > > > Then you twisted and mangled my words beyond all possible > > > > > > > reasonable > > > > > > > understanding by claiming I was dumb because I said sometime > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > didn't. > > > > > > > > >>> Adolph Hitler invented propaganda? You're dumber than I > > > > > > > >>> thought. > > > > > > > > Now you CLAIM I said or implied Hitler invented propaganda... > > > > > > > Clearly I did NOT... One of Gobbels methodologies was the do > > > > > > > EXACTLY > > > > > > > what you did, try to create a plausible straw-man to attack your > > > > > > > opponent... As I suggested, your tactics ARE Hitler-like, and I > > > > > > > might add not conducive to civil and honest debate... > > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 7:21 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > > > > Your a total goof. Hitler was a war-time veteran, an > > > > > > > > infantryman. I am > > > > > > > > a war tme veteran and was also an infantryman. So, I am > > > > > > > > Hitler-like? > > > > > > > > Your statement was illogical to say the least. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 4:17 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The rabid one here is Hollywood and you for NOT BEING ABLE to > > > > > > > > > admit > > > > > > > > > HITLER-LIKE is not HITLER-INVENTED > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 3:31 am, "moveon.org mike532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > not dumb just a rabid right wing supporter of the GOP . > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 6:14 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > > > > > > > Adolph Hitler invented propaganda? You're dumber than I > > > > > > > > > > > thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 4:27 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Propaganda. Sometime you do quite often. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 22, 5:15 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is Hitler-like about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 9:10 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACORN is a partisan group... You are doing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitler-like propaganda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2:59 am, "[ the last patriotic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Republican ]" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACORN is non partisan action group who work in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the community's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > registering voters as well as other things such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as fighting to remove > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crack houses from neighborhoods . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2:53 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You conveniently forget that the US attorneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General Alberto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales arose from a Republican attempt to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suppress the vote. 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