In this cases, "Someone Reporting"  is the Daily Kos, which is no different
than MSNBC,  TruthOut.org,  or the Socialist Workers Daily.   It is an
Anti-American publication infiltrated by communists who want to see the
United States become a third world or fourth world Nation-State, and/or the
demise of the United States. So in essence, I take anything that these
organizations say or report as most likely not truthful, and/or the spin of
the story makes it inaccurate.

Second, the report that I read has nothing to do with shipping "Ill Gotten
Gains"  abroad.  It has to do with our tax dollars being utilized in
foreign aid,  specifically to Israel.

Finally,  I don't think it is  really befitting for a "George Bush 'One
World Order/Open Borders' " supporter to start dictating what is, and is
not Republican Policy(ies).....You clearly don't have a clue.





On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:31 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It is you who should relocate!  Maybe to the new Nation-State IS;
> ---
> take your sorry ass home to israel, ziopig.
>
> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:59:33 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>
>> Hah!   Talk about shooting messengers!  Typical Moonbat,  labeling those
>> who have a little common sense and disagree with your far left extremist
>> Anti-American rants!
>>
>> It is you who should relocate!  Maybe to the new Nation-State IS;
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:49 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> don't shoot the messenger, zionist warmonger.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:38:03 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Plain Ol';  citing the Daily Kos......Nothing new here......
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:06 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Key neocons call for ending U.S. aid to Israel
>>>>> <http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/28/1317362/-Key-neocons-call-for-ending-U-S-aid-to-Israel>
>>>>>
>>>>> by Jon Perr <http://www.dailykos.com/user/Jon%20Perr>Follow
>>>>> <http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/28/1317362/-Key-neocons-call-for-ending-U-S-aid-to-Israel#?friend_id=8251&is_stream=1>
>>>>>  attribution: CBN News
>>>>> In their controversial 2007 book *The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign
>>>>> Policy
>>>>> <http://books.google.com/books?id=bQHXJ4JzxV4C&pg=PT41&lpg=PT41&dq=walt+mearsheimer+%22it+is+time+to+treat+israel+like+a+normal+country%22&source=bl&ots=AP9lfoauqx&sig=U3aKWiDtTRgyobaZyRdkgRn9hYg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VZDWU8DsFevXigKL4oHAAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=walt%20mearsheimer%20%22it%20is%20time%20to%20treat%20israel%20like%20a%20normal%20country%22&f=false>*,
>>>>> authors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt proposed a dramatic change in
>>>>> American financial aid for Israel currently amounting to $3 billion
>>>>> annually. "It is time to treat Israel like a normal country," they argued,
>>>>> "and make U.S. aid conditional on an end to the occupation and Israel's
>>>>> willingness to conform its policies to American interests." For this 
>>>>> (among
>>>>> other perceived sins), the two men were vilified by many American
>>>>> politicians, press and pundits, and were quickly labelled 
>>>>> anti-Semites--and
>>>>> worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> But now, some of the same voices that led the charge against
>>>>> Mearsheimer and Walt are now calling for ending U.S. aid to Israel
>>>>> altogether
>>>>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/18/some-of-israel-s-top-defenders-say-it-s-time-to-end-u-s-aid.html>.
>>>>> At the front of that pack is Elliot Abrams. But the Iran-Contra
>>>>> conspirator, Iraq war architect and cheerleader for a preventive U.S. war
>>>>> to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities doesn't want to terminate financial
>>>>> support in order to enhance American leverage on Israel, but instead to 
>>>>> *dramatically
>>>>> limit Washington's influence* over the Jewish State.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Eli Lake
>>>>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/18/some-of-israel-s-top-defenders-say-it-s-time-to-end-u-s-aid.html>
>>>>> explained in The Daily Beast, right now President Obama, overwhelming
>>>>> bipartisan majorities in Congress and the American Israeli Political 
>>>>> Action
>>>>> Committee remain committed to sending billions in U.S. aid for years to
>>>>> come. But some of the usual suspects among the neoconservative movement
>>>>> have a different take:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The experience of the Obama years has sharpened the perception among
>>>>> pro-Israel Americans that aid can cut against Israel by giving presidents
>>>>> with bad ideas more leverage than they would otherwise have," said Noah
>>>>> Pollak, the executive director of the Emergency Committee for Israel
>>>>> (ECI)... aid provides easy fodder for critics to claim that the alliance 
>>>>> is
>>>>> a burden on the United States or that it's a one-way street of America
>>>>> giving and Israel receiving. All things being equal, why not remove these
>>>>> falsehoods from the debate?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Abrams, who has called on Congress for an authorization for the use of
>>>>> military force (AUMF) to give President Obama a free hand to bomb Iran,
>>>>> wants to give Benjamin Netanyahu and his successors a free hand, period.
>>>>>
>>>>> "My view is over time it would be healthy for the relationship if the
>>>>> aid diminished. Israel should be less dependent on American financial
>>>>> assistance and should become the kind of ally that we have in Australia,
>>>>> Canada, or the United Kingdom: an intimate military relationship and
>>>>> alliance, but no military aid."
>>>>>
>>>>> (It should be noted, as former Ambassador to Washington Michael Oren
>>>>> did, that the United States does not have a mutual defense agreement with
>>>>> Israel. Then again, unlike Australia, Canada or the United Kingdom,
>>>>> Israel's power is not fungible on behalf of the United States. As the
>>>>> experience of the First Gulf War
>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/20/world/war-gulf-president-bush-urges-israeli-restraint-phone-appeals-shamir.html>
>>>>> showed to the chagrin of Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, justifiable 
>>>>> Israeli
>>>>> retaliation against Iraqi Scud missile strikes would have shattered the
>>>>> allied coalition that ejected Saddam Hussein from Kuwait.)
>>>>>
>>>>> *Continue reading below.*
>>>>>
>>>>>  With the Israeli economy booming and soon to be bolstered by massive
>>>>> proceeds from new natural gas discoveries, the once vital American 
>>>>> billions
>>>>> will seem increasingly incongruous. As Abrams put it, "I do not believe a
>>>>> country that has a sovereign wealth fund can be an aid recipient."
>>>>>
>>>>> It's no surprise that David Wurmser would agree. Wurmser, an aide to
>>>>> Dick Cheney who resigned in 2007 over the Bush's administration's
>>>>> catastrophic policy
>>>>> <http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/20/1315353/-Hamas-rule-in-Gaza-President-Bush-built-that>
>>>>> that enabled Hamas to take over Gaza, as far back as 1996 called Israel to
>>>>> graduate from being a "tenuous project" to a "real country." Now a
>>>>> consultant for U.S. firms looking to invest in the Israeli energy sector,
>>>>> Wurmser argues that the U.S. should cut the cord precisely so Israel can
>>>>> operate with impunity free of pressure from Washington:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The aid both implied a lack of feasibility of the state as well as
>>>>> tying the state's hands and reducing its freedom to maneuver. Both of 
>>>>> which
>>>>> are inappropriate for a truly independent country, which it had become in
>>>>> this period."
>>>>>
>>>>> That's putting it mildly. As the withering criticism of Secretary of
>>>>> State John Kerry
>>>>> <http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/us-fuming-israeli-criticism-john-kerry>
>>>>> from the Israeli government and press shows, our ally like any other will
>>>>> ultimately do what it believes are necessary for its--and not
>>>>> American--interests. (That 87 percent of Israelis don't want a truce
>>>>> <http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Poll-865-percent-of-Israelis-oppose-cease-fire-369064>
>>>>> to prevent the suddenly very popular Benjamin Netanyahu to crush Hamas in
>>>>> Gaza is reflects the two nation's diverging national interests.)   While
>>>>> not all of their fellow travelers agree, the message from the
>>>>> neoconservatives seems to be this. Israel will--and should--do whatever it
>>>>> wants to anyway; Americans might as well as save that $3 billion a year.
>>>>> Apparently, it's better for Stephen Walt, John Mearsheimer and millions of
>>>>> American taxpayers to be frustrated for free.
>>>>>
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