More Old Testament Jewish law --- no ... that's new testament doctrine.
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:01:43 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > More Old Testament Jewish law, and it applied only to Asa and his wife, > not to any Christian. > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> It is not a part or parcel of Christianity's New Covenants >> --- >> *They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, >> with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, >> the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether >> man or woman.* (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) >> >> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:51:48 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> As we all know, the Book of Deuteronomy is the fifth book of the Hebrew >>> Bible, and of the Jewish Torah. It really has little to do with >>> Christianity, other than being a Biblical Historical document. >>> >>> It is not a part or parcel of Christianity's New Covenants, which is >>> what all Christians hold dear and believe in. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:49 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Handing a Loaded Gun to a Man Whose Religion Tells Him to Kill Me >>>> --- >>>> >>>> *Deuteronomy 17* >>>> If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy >>>> God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight >>>> of >>>> the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and >>>> served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of >>>> the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, >>>> and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be >>>> true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; >>>> 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have >>>> committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, >>>> and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. >>>> >>>> Fairly clear, isn't it? Christians are instructed in their "holy" bible >>>> to murder persons who do not believe in their god. Why haven't we heard >>>> more about this? Because many Christians are content to ignore certain >>>> parts of their bible while obsessing about others. And what of those who >>>> do >>>> not ignore such parts of their "sacred" text? We call them extremists. >>>> >>>> Read more: http://www.atheistrev.com/2005/03/bible-commands- >>>> christians-to-kill.html#ixzz3GpIuSUeM >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:19:25 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why Jan Morgan does not want Muslims in her shooting range. >>>>> >>>>> Handing a Loaded Gun to a Man Whose Religion Tells Him to Kill Me >>>>> #JanMorganMedia >>>>> http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/10/handing-loaded-gun-man- >>>>> whose-religion-tells-kill/#20cb1UXmp8Cs2OLR.03 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When I wrote about why I no longer want islamists in my indoor >>>>> shooting range, I was called vile names, told I should kill myself, >>>>> smeared >>>>> and attacked from every angle. >>>>> >>>>> However, those people fail to realize that when you have had your life >>>>> threatened repeatedly by people who worship Muhammad, and, you know the >>>>> level of violence that devout islamists are capable of, (as we all saw >>>>> recently in Oklahoma) the petty name calling, smears, and personal >>>>> attacks >>>>> seem insignificant. >>>>> >>>>> The fact is…I have heard from literally thousands of people from >>>>> around the world.. many business owners in America who tell me they feel >>>>> exactly the same way I do… yet they remain quiet out of fear. I have >>>>> heard >>>>> from thousands of people around the country who are supportive of my >>>>> position. >>>>> >>>>> To understand why I arrived at my position, you must first take in to >>>>> consideration the nature of my business. >>>>> >>>>> This is not a coffee and donut shop. This is a live fire indoor >>>>> shooting range. People come here to buy, rent, and shoot lethal weapons. >>>>> >>>>> In the range, people are shooting guns in close proximity to each >>>>> other, so my patrons depend on me and my discretion regarding who I allow >>>>> to shoot beside them. >>>>> One mistake in judgement on my part could cost innocent people their >>>>> lives. >>>>> >>>>> The primary reasons I do not want devout islamists shooting at my >>>>> range are listed: >>>>> >>>>> 1) The Koran (which I have read and studied thoroughly) and (which all >>>>> muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding hate, >>>>> murder >>>>> and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to >>>>> Islam. >>>>> Read those verses of violence HERE at this link: >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/notes/jan-morgan/islamverses-from- >>>>> the-quran-evidence-that-islam-is-clearly-and-concisely-evil-vio/ >>>>> 10150288799819261 >>>>> >>>>> 2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims in response to my >>>>> publication of those verses from their Koran. Why would I want to rent or >>>>> sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a >>>>> religion that commands him to kill me? >>>>> >>>>> 3) * Muslims, who belong to and, or, support ISIS, are threatening to >>>>> kill innocent >>>>> Americans >>>>> * Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill >>>>> innocent >>>>> Americans. >>>>> * Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill >>>>> innocent Americans. >>>>> See a common thread here? >>>>> >>>>> 4) Two Muslims walked in to my range last week with allah akbar ring >>>>> tone and message alert tones on their smart phones. They spoke very >>>>> little >>>>> english, one did not have proof of U.S. citizenship, yet they wanted to >>>>> rent and shoot guns. They were constantly glancing toward the cameras in >>>>> the range, then looking at each other and speaking in their own language. >>>>> Their behavior was so strange, it frightened my patrons. No one would >>>>> enter the range to shoot while they were there. Some of my customers left. >>>>> (can you blame them?) >>>>> >>>>> 5) * The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma by >>>>> a muslim >>>>> * the Boston bombings(by muslims) >>>>> * the Foot Hood mass shooting (by a muslim) that killed 13 people and >>>>> injured over 30 >>>>> people >>>>> * and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by muslims) on 9/11 >>>>> This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of >>>>> muslims to substantiate my position that muslims can and may follow the >>>>> directives in their Koran and kill here at home. >>>>> >>>>> 6) I have a federal firearms licence… The ATF informed us when we >>>>> received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about selling >>>>> someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an >>>>> individual, or if we are concerned about that persons mental state, even >>>>> if >>>>> they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun. >>>>> Two >>>>> different ATF agents stressed that it is better to err on the side of >>>>> caution. >>>>> In other words, a federal agency has given FFL’s discretion on >>>>> firearms deals. An FFL can turn people away if there is any concern about >>>>> their behavior and or indications that the person might use the firearm >>>>> in >>>>> the commission of a crime. >>>>> >>>>> 7) I understand that not all muslims are terrorists. I also believe >>>>> there are as many Muslims who do not know what is in their Koran as there >>>>> are Christians who do not know what is in their Bible. >>>>> Since I have no way of discerning which muslims will or will not kill >>>>> in the name of their religion and the commands in their koran, I choose >>>>> to >>>>> err on the side of caution for the safety of my patrons, just as I would >>>>> anyone else who aligns himself with an organization that commands him to >>>>> commit crimes against innocent people. >>>>> >>>>> 8) On the issue of religious discrimination: >>>>> I view Islam as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is the union of >>>>> political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words, law, religion >>>>> and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The >>>>> Nation >>>>> of Islam.” >>>>> It is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the >>>>> governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a >>>>> religion. >>>>> The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. >>>>> The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of >>>>> individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of >>>>> religions, >>>>> not theocracies. >>>>> It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again >>>>> protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the >>>>> state) government. >>>>> In Islam religion and state are one. >>>>> We are a Nation governed by laws, the U.S. Constitution. We are not a >>>>> Nation that is governed by religion, politicians or clerics. >>>>> How then can Islam be protected by the U.S. Constitution? >>>>> >>>>> 9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children, (honor killing) if >>>>> the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family name. >>>>> (which has already occurred on American soil) >>>>> Why would I allow people (whose religion allows them to murder their >>>>> own children), be in the presence of other children? >>>>> My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. >>>>> I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children >>>>> to learn gun safety and shooting sports. >>>>> >>>>> 10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam, muslims have murdered >>>>> over 270 million people. >>>>> Since 9/11 muslims have committed over 21 thousand deadly terror >>>>> attacks world wide. >>>>> There are currently 35 Islamic terror training camps on American soil. >>>>> (ref: Fox News/See news story here) >>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WubEFsN5pk8> >>>>> >>>>> In summary, people who shoot at my range come from all religious >>>>> backgrounds… some are atheists… I do not care about their religious >>>>> beliefs >>>>> until or unless those beliefs command them to commit violent crimes >>>>> against >>>>> innocent people and I witness those crimes increasing, as we all have >>>>> lately. >>>>> >>>>> If you had received death threats by muslims, would you want the >>>>> government telling you that you had to allow them in to your home or >>>>> business and hand them a loaded gun? >>>>> >>>>> I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my >>>>> customers. >>>>> It is not a choice… It is my responsibility. >>>>> >>>>> Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range >>>>> 1225 Blacksnake Road >>>>> Hot Springs, Arkansas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read more at http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/10/handing-loaded-gun-man- >>>>> whose-religion-tells-kill/#rCAT3CbpxcmRCTbL.99 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __._,_.___ >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Visit Your Group >>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdTd2ZDJkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MTM0ODAzMzA-> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Yahoo! 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