LOL! Not from 2 Chronicles it's not! <Grin>!
Hey Plain Ol'! You've been away far too long from your Biblical teachings! You might want to go back and refresh your memory on the Books of the Old, and the New Testaments! On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > More Old Testament Jewish law > --- > no ... that's new testament doctrine. > > > On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:01:43 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> More Old Testament Jewish law, and it applied only to Asa and his wife, >> not to any Christian. >> >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It is not a part or parcel of Christianity's New Covenants >>> --- >>> *They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their >>> fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the >>> Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, >>> whether man or woman.* (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:51:48 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> As we all know, the Book of Deuteronomy is the fifth book of the >>>> Hebrew Bible, and of the Jewish Torah. It really has little to do with >>>> Christianity, other than being a Biblical Historical document. >>>> >>>> It is not a part or parcel of Christianity's New Covenants, which is >>>> what all Christians hold dear and believe in. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:49 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Handing a Loaded Gun to a Man Whose Religion Tells Him to Kill Me >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> *Deuteronomy 17* >>>>> If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD >>>>> thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the >>>>> sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath >>>>> gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, >>>>> or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be >>>>> told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, >>>>> behold, >>>>> it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in >>>>> Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which >>>>> have >>>>> committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, >>>>> and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. >>>>> >>>>> Fairly clear, isn't it? Christians are instructed in their "holy" >>>>> bible to murder persons who do not believe in their god. Why haven't we >>>>> heard more about this? Because many Christians are content to ignore >>>>> certain parts of their bible while obsessing about others. And what of >>>>> those who do not ignore such parts of their "sacred" text? We call them >>>>> extremists. >>>>> >>>>> Read more: http://www.atheistrev.com/2005/03/bible-commands-chris >>>>> tians-to-kill.html#ixzz3GpIuSUeM >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:19:25 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why Jan Morgan does not want Muslims in her shooting range. >>>>>> >>>>>> Handing a Loaded Gun to a Man Whose Religion Tells Him to Kill Me >>>>>> #JanMorganMedia >>>>>> http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/10/handing-loaded-gun-man-who >>>>>> se-religion-tells-kill/#20cb1UXmp8Cs2OLR.03 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When I wrote about why I no longer want islamists in my indoor >>>>>> shooting range, I was called vile names, told I should kill myself, >>>>>> smeared >>>>>> and attacked from every angle. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, those people fail to realize that when you have had your >>>>>> life threatened repeatedly by people who worship Muhammad, and, you know >>>>>> the level of violence that devout islamists are capable of, (as we all >>>>>> saw >>>>>> recently in Oklahoma) the petty name calling, smears, and personal >>>>>> attacks >>>>>> seem insignificant. >>>>>> >>>>>> The fact is…I have heard from literally thousands of people from >>>>>> around the world.. many business owners in America who tell me they feel >>>>>> exactly the same way I do… yet they remain quiet out of fear. I have >>>>>> heard >>>>>> from thousands of people around the country who are supportive of my >>>>>> position. >>>>>> >>>>>> To understand why I arrived at my position, you must first take in to >>>>>> consideration the nature of my business. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is not a coffee and donut shop. This is a live fire indoor >>>>>> shooting range. People come here to buy, rent, and shoot lethal weapons. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the range, people are shooting guns in close proximity to each >>>>>> other, so my patrons depend on me and my discretion regarding who I allow >>>>>> to shoot beside them. >>>>>> One mistake in judgement on my part could cost innocent people their >>>>>> lives. >>>>>> >>>>>> The primary reasons I do not want devout islamists shooting at my >>>>>> range are listed: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) The Koran (which I have read and studied thoroughly) and (which >>>>>> all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding hate, >>>>>> murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or >>>>>> convert >>>>>> to Islam. >>>>>> Read those verses of violence HERE at this link: >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/notes/jan-morgan/islamverses-from-t >>>>>> he-quran-evidence-that-islam-is-clearly-and-concisely-evil-vio/ >>>>>> 10150288799819261 >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims in response to >>>>>> my publication of those verses from their Koran. Why would I want to rent >>>>>> or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a >>>>>> religion that commands him to kill me? >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) * Muslims, who belong to and, or, support ISIS, are threatening to >>>>>> kill innocent >>>>>> Americans >>>>>> * Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill >>>>>> innocent >>>>>> Americans. >>>>>> * Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill >>>>>> innocent Americans. >>>>>> See a common thread here? >>>>>> >>>>>> 4) Two Muslims walked in to my range last week with allah akbar ring >>>>>> tone and message alert tones on their smart phones. They spoke very >>>>>> little >>>>>> english, one did not have proof of U.S. citizenship, yet they wanted to >>>>>> rent and shoot guns. They were constantly glancing toward the cameras in >>>>>> the range, then looking at each other and speaking in their own language. >>>>>> Their behavior was so strange, it frightened my patrons. No one would >>>>>> enter the range to shoot while they were there. Some of my customers >>>>>> left. >>>>>> (can you blame them?) >>>>>> >>>>>> 5) * The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma >>>>>> by a muslim >>>>>> * the Boston bombings(by muslims) >>>>>> * the Foot Hood mass shooting (by a muslim) that killed 13 people and >>>>>> injured over 30 >>>>>> people >>>>>> * and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by muslims) on 9/11 >>>>>> This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of >>>>>> muslims to substantiate my position that muslims can and may follow the >>>>>> directives in their Koran and kill here at home. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6) I have a federal firearms licence… The ATF informed us when we >>>>>> received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about selling >>>>>> someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an >>>>>> individual, or if we are concerned about that persons mental state, even >>>>>> if >>>>>> they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun. >>>>>> Two >>>>>> different ATF agents stressed that it is better to err on the side of >>>>>> caution. >>>>>> In other words, a federal agency has given FFL’s discretion on >>>>>> firearms deals. An FFL can turn people away if there is any concern about >>>>>> their behavior and or indications that the person might use the firearm >>>>>> in >>>>>> the commission of a crime. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7) I understand that not all muslims are terrorists. I also believe >>>>>> there are as many Muslims who do not know what is in their Koran as there >>>>>> are Christians who do not know what is in their Bible. >>>>>> Since I have no way of discerning which muslims will or will not kill >>>>>> in the name of their religion and the commands in their koran, I choose >>>>>> to >>>>>> err on the side of caution for the safety of my patrons, just as I would >>>>>> anyone else who aligns himself with an organization that commands him to >>>>>> commit crimes against innocent people. >>>>>> >>>>>> 8) On the issue of religious discrimination: >>>>>> I view Islam as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is the union of >>>>>> political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words, law, religion >>>>>> and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The >>>>>> Nation >>>>>> of Islam.” >>>>>> It is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the >>>>>> governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a >>>>>> religion. >>>>>> The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. >>>>>> The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of >>>>>> individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of >>>>>> religions, >>>>>> not theocracies. >>>>>> It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again >>>>>> protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the >>>>>> state) government. >>>>>> In Islam religion and state are one. >>>>>> We are a Nation governed by laws, the U.S. Constitution. We are not a >>>>>> Nation that is governed by religion, politicians or clerics. >>>>>> How then can Islam be protected by the U.S. Constitution? >>>>>> >>>>>> 9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children, (honor killing) >>>>>> if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family >>>>>> name. >>>>>> (which has already occurred on American soil) >>>>>> Why would I allow people (whose religion allows them to murder their >>>>>> own children), be in the presence of other children? >>>>>> My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. >>>>>> I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children >>>>>> to learn gun safety and shooting sports. >>>>>> >>>>>> 10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam, muslims have murdered >>>>>> over 270 million people. >>>>>> Since 9/11 muslims have committed over 21 thousand deadly terror >>>>>> attacks world wide. >>>>>> There are currently 35 Islamic terror training camps on American soil. >>>>>> (ref: Fox News/See news story here) >>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WubEFsN5pk8> >>>>>> >>>>>> In summary, people who shoot at my range come from all religious >>>>>> backgrounds… some are atheists… I do not care about their religious >>>>>> beliefs >>>>>> until or unless those beliefs command them to commit violent crimes >>>>>> against >>>>>> innocent people and I witness those crimes increasing, as we all have >>>>>> lately. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you had received death threats by muslims, would you want the >>>>>> government telling you that you had to allow them in to your home or >>>>>> business and hand them a loaded gun? >>>>>> >>>>>> I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my >>>>>> customers. >>>>>> It is not a choice… It is my responsibility. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range >>>>>> 1225 Blacksnake Road >>>>>> Hot Springs, Arkansas >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Read more at http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/10/handing-loaded-gun- >>>>>> man-whose-religion-tells-kill/#rCAT3CbpxcmRCTbL.99 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __._,_.___ >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit Your Group >>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdTd2ZDJkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MTM0ODAzMzA-> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Yahoo! 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