Oops ... my mistake. Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:18:48 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > LOL! > > Not from 2 Chronicles it's not! <Grin>! > > Hey Plain Ol'! You've been away far too long from your Biblical > teachings! You might want to go back and refresh your memory on the Books > of the Old, and the New Testaments! > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> More Old Testament Jewish law >> --- >> no ... that's new testament doctrine. >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:01:43 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> More Old Testament Jewish law, and it applied only to Asa and his wife, >>> not to any Christian. >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It is not a part or parcel of Christianity's New Covenants >>>> --- >>>> *They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their >>>> fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek >>>> the >>>> Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, >>>> whether man or woman.* (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:51:48 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As we all know, the Book of Deuteronomy is the fifth book of the >>>>> Hebrew Bible, and of the Jewish Torah. It really has little to do with >>>>> Christianity, other than being a Biblical Historical document. >>>>> >>>>> It is not a part or parcel of Christianity's New Covenants, which is >>>>> what all Christians hold dear and believe in. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:49 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Handing a Loaded Gun to a Man Whose Religion Tells Him to Kill Me >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>>> *Deuteronomy 17* >>>>>> If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD >>>>>> thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the >>>>>> sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath >>>>>> gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or >>>>>> moon, >>>>>> or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be >>>>>> told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, >>>>>> behold, >>>>>> it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in >>>>>> Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which >>>>>> have >>>>>> committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that >>>>>> woman, >>>>>> and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fairly clear, isn't it? Christians are instructed in their "holy" >>>>>> bible to murder persons who do not believe in their god. Why haven't we >>>>>> heard more about this? Because many Christians are content to ignore >>>>>> certain parts of their bible while obsessing about others. And what of >>>>>> those who do not ignore such parts of their "sacred" text? We call them >>>>>> extremists. >>>>>> >>>>>> Read more: http://www.atheistrev.com/2005/03/bible-commands-chris >>>>>> tians-to-kill.html#ixzz3GpIuSUeM >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:19:25 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why Jan Morgan does not want Muslims in her shooting range. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Handing a Loaded Gun to a Man Whose Religion Tells Him to Kill Me >>>>>>> #JanMorganMedia >>>>>>> http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/10/handing-loaded-gun-man-who >>>>>>> se-religion-tells-kill/#20cb1UXmp8Cs2OLR.03 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I wrote about why I no longer want islamists in my indoor >>>>>>> shooting range, I was called vile names, told I should kill myself, >>>>>>> smeared >>>>>>> and attacked from every angle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, those people fail to realize that when you have had your >>>>>>> life threatened repeatedly by people who worship Muhammad, and, you >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> the level of violence that devout islamists are capable of, (as we all >>>>>>> saw >>>>>>> recently in Oklahoma) the petty name calling, smears, and personal >>>>>>> attacks >>>>>>> seem insignificant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The fact is…I have heard from literally thousands of people from >>>>>>> around the world.. many business owners in America who tell me they >>>>>>> feel >>>>>>> exactly the same way I do… yet they remain quiet out of fear. I have >>>>>>> heard >>>>>>> from thousands of people around the country who are supportive of my >>>>>>> position. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To understand why I arrived at my position, you must first take in >>>>>>> to consideration the nature of my business. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is not a coffee and donut shop. This is a live fire indoor >>>>>>> shooting range. People come here to buy, rent, and shoot lethal weapons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the range, people are shooting guns in close proximity to each >>>>>>> other, so my patrons depend on me and my discretion regarding who I >>>>>>> allow >>>>>>> to shoot beside them. >>>>>>> One mistake in judgement on my part could cost innocent people their >>>>>>> lives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The primary reasons I do not want devout islamists shooting at my >>>>>>> range are listed: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) The Koran (which I have read and studied thoroughly) and (which >>>>>>> all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding >>>>>>> hate, >>>>>>> murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or >>>>>>> convert >>>>>>> to Islam. >>>>>>> Read those verses of violence HERE at this link: >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/notes/jan-morgan/islamverses-from-t >>>>>>> he-quran-evidence-that-islam-is-clearly-and-concisely-evil-vio/ >>>>>>> 10150288799819261 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims in response to >>>>>>> my publication of those verses from their Koran. Why would I want to >>>>>>> rent >>>>>>> or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a >>>>>>> religion that commands him to kill me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) * Muslims, who belong to and, or, support ISIS, are threatening >>>>>>> to kill innocent >>>>>>> Americans >>>>>>> * Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to >>>>>>> kill innocent >>>>>>> Americans. >>>>>>> * Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill >>>>>>> innocent Americans. >>>>>>> See a common thread here? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4) Two Muslims walked in to my range last week with allah akbar ring >>>>>>> tone and message alert tones on their smart phones. They spoke very >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> english, one did not have proof of U.S. citizenship, yet they wanted to >>>>>>> rent and shoot guns. They were constantly glancing toward the cameras >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the range, then looking at each other and speaking in their own >>>>>>> language. >>>>>>> Their behavior was so strange, it frightened my patrons. No one >>>>>>> would enter the range to shoot while they were there. Some of my >>>>>>> customers >>>>>>> left. >>>>>>> (can you blame them?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5) * The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma >>>>>>> by a muslim >>>>>>> * the Boston bombings(by muslims) >>>>>>> * the Foot Hood mass shooting (by a muslim) that killed 13 people >>>>>>> and injured over 30 >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> * and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by muslims) on 9/11 >>>>>>> This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands >>>>>>> of muslims to substantiate my position that muslims can and may follow >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> directives in their Koran and kill here at home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6) I have a federal firearms licence… The ATF informed us when we >>>>>>> received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about >>>>>>> selling >>>>>>> someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an >>>>>>> individual, or if we are concerned about that persons mental state, >>>>>>> even if >>>>>>> they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun. >>>>>>> Two >>>>>>> different ATF agents stressed that it is better to err on the side of >>>>>>> caution. >>>>>>> In other words, a federal agency has given FFL’s discretion on >>>>>>> firearms deals. An FFL can turn people away if there is any concern >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> their behavior and or indications that the person might use the firearm >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the commission of a crime. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7) I understand that not all muslims are terrorists. I also believe >>>>>>> there are as many Muslims who do not know what is in their Koran as >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> are Christians who do not know what is in their Bible. >>>>>>> Since I have no way of discerning which muslims will or will not >>>>>>> kill in the name of their religion and the commands in their koran, I >>>>>>> choose to err on the side of caution for the safety of my patrons, just >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> I would anyone else who aligns himself with an organization that >>>>>>> commands >>>>>>> him to commit crimes against innocent people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8) On the issue of religious discrimination: >>>>>>> I view Islam as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is the union of >>>>>>> political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words, law, >>>>>>> religion >>>>>>> and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The >>>>>>> Nation >>>>>>> of Islam.” >>>>>>> It is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the >>>>>>> governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a >>>>>>> religion. >>>>>>> The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. >>>>>>> The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of >>>>>>> individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of >>>>>>> religions, >>>>>>> not theocracies. >>>>>>> It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again >>>>>>> protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the >>>>>>> state) government. >>>>>>> In Islam religion and state are one. >>>>>>> We are a Nation governed by laws, the U.S. Constitution. We are not >>>>>>> a Nation that is governed by religion, politicians or clerics. >>>>>>> How then can Islam be protected by the U.S. Constitution? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children, (honor killing) >>>>>>> if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family >>>>>>> name. >>>>>>> (which has already occurred on American soil) >>>>>>> Why would I allow people (whose religion allows them to murder their >>>>>>> own children), be in the presence of other children? >>>>>>> My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to >>>>>>> shoot. >>>>>>> I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children >>>>>>> to learn gun safety and shooting sports. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam, muslims have murdered >>>>>>> over 270 million people. >>>>>>> Since 9/11 muslims have committed over 21 thousand deadly terror >>>>>>> attacks world wide. >>>>>>> There are currently 35 Islamic terror training camps on American >>>>>>> soil. >>>>>>> (ref: Fox News/See news story here) >>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WubEFsN5pk8> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In summary, people who shoot at my range come from all religious >>>>>>> backgrounds… some are atheists… I do not care about their religious >>>>>>> beliefs >>>>>>> until or unless those beliefs command them to commit violent crimes >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> innocent people and I witness those crimes increasing, as we all have >>>>>>> lately. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you had received death threats by muslims, would you want the >>>>>>> government telling you that you had to allow them in to your home or >>>>>>> business and hand them a loaded gun? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my >>>>>>> customers. >>>>>>> It is not a choice… It is my responsibility. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range >>>>>>> 1225 Blacksnake Road >>>>>>> Hot Springs, Arkansas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Read more at http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/10/handing-loaded-gun- >>>>>>> man-whose-religion-tells-kill/#rCAT3CbpxcmRCTbL.99 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __._,_.___ >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit Your Group >>>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdTd2ZDJkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MTM0ODAzMzA-> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Yahoo! 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