I don't expect you to answer because this same type of question has been posed to you on numerous occasions, and here once again it proves your ignorance, but for the Group; please demonstrate, give examples, or even your opinion of "*israel's genocidal aggression toward goyim in israel"*
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > the world is just supposed to sit back, and accept acts of violence and > aggression against Western Culture and Societies? > --- > no more than we're supposed to accept israel's genocidal aggression toward > goyim in israel. > > so, since you have sided with the zionists, when are you self-deporting to > israel? > > On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 6:51:56 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> *Writing on the wall? * >> >> Without wishing to appear callous, the carnage in Paris could hardly be >> considered unexpected. In many ways the writing has been on the wall for >> several years. >> >> After all, it comes in the wake of a string of incidents of murderous >> Islamic-motivated violence across the country. >> >> In mid-March 2012, several off-duty soldiers were gunned down in >> Montauban and Toulouse by a French-born Muslim of Algerian origin. >> >> A few days later, he slaughtered a rabbi and three children, aged three >> to eight, in an attack on a Jewish day school in Toulouse. >> >> What totally goofy shit....So? Under this "theory"; the world is just >> supposed to sit back, and accept acts of violence and aggression against >> Western Culture and Societies? >> >> Typical far left extremist Moonbat! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:06 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0tGbiFbF6w >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ntHNQIkQSw >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ibKWVTFSak >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VrmWgkeIVE >>> >>> On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 9:50:49 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://jerusalemchannel.tv/islam-terror-rainfall-flooding/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Islam is to Terror as Rainfall is to Flooding >>>> >>>> admin <http://jerusalemchannel.tv/author/admin/> / January 23, 2015 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Internet screenshot of Islamic State (ISIS) terror tactics on >>>> the move] <http://jerusalemchannel.tv/islam-terror-rainfall-flooding/> >>>> >>>> *Internet screenshot of Islamic State (ISIS) terror tactics on the move* >>>> >>>> *Into the Fray >>>> <http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Into-the-fray-Its-Islam-stupid-387171>: It’s >>>> Islam, stupid!* >>>> >>>> *By Martin Sherman (reprinted with the author’s permission)* >>>> >>>> *One out six people all over the world is a Muslim… trying to say >>>> anything in general about this huge community – 1.5 billion people – will >>>> be wrong… The vast majority of these populations are not involved with all >>>> what’s happening with violence and terror all over the world…. I don’t >>>> think there is anything essential that connects between this huge and >>>> historically important religion and all the terrorism that’s going on.* >>>> – Sami Abu Shehadeh, secretary-general of Balad, Tel Aviv-Jaffa >>>> >>>> With these words, Sami Abu Shehadeh, of the anti-Zionist Arab party >>>> Balad, commenced a debate with me on “The rise of anti-Muslim sentiment in >>>> the West,” which took place in the i24 News studios last month. >>>> >>>> Clearly, recent events in Paris, in which 12 people were brutally >>>> gunned down, gave the topic new and urgent relevance. >>>> >>>> *Islam is to terror as rainfall is to flooding * >>>> >>>> Of course, there is much truth in Abu Shehadeh’s claim that most >>>> Muslims are not actively involved in terrorism. While this claim is >>>> factually correct, substantively it is meaningless. >>>> >>>> For anyone with an iota of intellectual integrity and reasonably >>>> informed of world affairs, the answer to whether Islam and violence and >>>> terrorism are causally connected should be unequivocally clear. To ask >>>> whether Islam is associated with terrorism is a little like asking if >>>> rainfall is associated with flooding. Of course it is – as can be >>>> irrefutably deduced from Abu Shehadeh’s attempt to exonerate it. >>>> >>>> After all, if one in six people in the world is a Muslim, it would mean >>>> that five out of six are not. Right? So if there were no inordinate >>>> affinity of Islam for violence/ terrorism, Muslim acts of terrorism should >>>> be one-fifth of those of non-Muslim terrorism – i.e. if Islam had no >>>> greater propensity for terrorism, one would have to expect non-Muslim acts >>>> of terrorism to be five times (!) those perpetrated by Muslims. >>>> >>>> This is clearly not the case, and terrorist attacks committed by >>>> adherents of Islam far outweigh those carried out by non-Muslims. >>>> >>>> It would therefore seem that – in stark violation of the protocols of >>>> political correctness – there is little choice but to conclude what many in >>>> the West sense instinctively: There is a disproportionate causal connection >>>> between Islam on the one hand, and acts of ideo-politically motivated >>>> violence against civilian populations, i.e. terrorism on the other. >>>> >>>> *Writing on the wall? * >>>> >>>> Without wishing to appear callous, the carnage in Paris could hardly be >>>> considered unexpected. In many ways the writing has been on the wall for >>>> several years. >>>> >>>> After all, it comes in the wake of a string of incidents of murderous >>>> Islamic-motivated violence across the country. >>>> >>>> In mid-March 2012, several off-duty soldiers were gunned down in >>>> Montauban and Toulouse by a French-born Muslim of Algerian origin. >>>> >>>> A few days later, he slaughtered a rabbi and three children, aged three >>>> to eight, in an attack on a Jewish day school in Toulouse. >>>> >>>> More recently, just before Christmas, France was racked by a spate of >>>> “lone wolf” terrorist attacks, in Dijon, Nantes and Tours, which prompted >>>> the British Independent to report the incidents under the ominous headline >>>> “France gripped by fear at Christmas after third street attack in three >>>> days.” (December 23, 2014) In both the Dijon and Tours incidents, the >>>> attacker is reported to have shouted “Allahu akbar,” dispelling any >>>> suspicion that the assaults were perpetrated by Buddhist extremists. >>>> >>>> Muslim violence has been simmering in France for years, boiling over >>>> regularly around Christmas and New Year, when hundreds of cars are torched >>>> in Muslim-majority neighborhoods to usher in the start of the Gregorian >>>> year. >>>> >>>> Typically, reports in the mainstream media studiously avoid mention of >>>> any connection between this criminal arson on a massive scale and the >>>> culprits’ ethnic origins. >>>> >>>> *Catalogue of carnage * >>>> >>>> The slaughter in Paris takes its place in a long list of acts of >>>> butchery, all committed in the name of Islam. >>>> >>>> Consider the following (and decidedly partial) catalogue of carnage, of >>>> the gory events that took place across the globe over the past two decades >>>> and shocked the world with their brutally. >>>> >>>> New York – Cataclysmic destruction of the Twin Towers Washington – >>>> Attempt to demolish the Pentagon London – Coordinated attack on the public >>>> transport system; the beheading of an off duty soldier in broad daylight in >>>> full public view Madrid – Bombing of crowded commuter trains at rush hour >>>> Nairobi – Seizure of Westgate shopping mall and murder of scores of >>>> innocents Burgas, Bulgaria – Bombing of a tourist bus Mumbai – Murderous >>>> attack on the Taj Mahal Hotel, Chabad House and other sites Boston – >>>> Bombing of the city’s annual marathon Bali – Bombing of crowded tourist >>>> locations Buenos Aires – Deadly attacks on Jewish institutions and the >>>> Israeli Embassy Ottawa – Assault on the Canadian Parliament Sydney – Recent >>>> seizure of a downtown café and murder of two customers In-Amenas, Algeria – >>>> Seizure of a gas facility and murder of dozens of civilians Chibock, >>>> Nigeria – Abduction of almost 300 schoolgirls, reportedly to serve as sex >>>> slaves This bloodcurdling list is in no way complete, and numerous other >>>> incidents could be added. It certainly does not include all the attempted >>>> attacks that were foiled by security services in various countries, >>>> preventing the commission of even more gruesome atrocities by adherents of >>>> Islam. >>>> >>>> *Horrors of intra-Muslim strife * >>>> >>>> Try as one may, there is no way that, in the modern world, any other >>>> faith/creed can be associated with such violence/ terror – in scope, size, >>>> frequency or ubiquity of occurrence. >>>> >>>> But as appalling as Muslim violence against non-Muslims might be, it >>>> pales into insignificance when compared to violence between Muslims >>>> themselves. >>>> >>>> It would be impossible to give a comprehensive survey of the >>>> intra-Muslim carnage that has raged – and still rages – across vast swathes >>>> of the globe, from the shores of the Atlantic Ocean to the islands of >>>> Asia-Pacific. A brutally condensed synopsis will have to suffice. >>>> >>>> Even before the unspeakable barbarism of al-Nusra and Islamic State >>>> began to sweep across much of the Levant, merciless massacres of Muslims at >>>> the hands of Muslims abounded. >>>> >>>> For example, in the almost 10-year Algerian civil war, internecine >>>> frictions between rival Islamist factions resulted in massive fratricide – >>>> with a death toll reaching, by some estimates, 150,000. Acts of >>>> unimaginable brutality were perpetrated with entire villages wiped out and >>>> victims’ bodies mutilated. >>>> >>>> Likewise, regular bombings of markets and mosques across countries such >>>> as Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan have produced massive loss of Muslim life >>>> at the hands of belligerent brethren – yet hardly generate a footnote in >>>> the mainstream media. The intra-Muslim conflict seems so intense and >>>> complicated that even a reasonably informed layman would find it almost >>>> impossible to figure out who is killing whom, and why… >>>> >>>> As a gauge of the scope of the slaughter, the Pakistani site Dawn >>>> reported in a post titled “Islam at war – with itself” that al-Qaida >>>> affiliates and other extreme Islamist groups “have perpetrated >>>> indiscriminate violence against civilians…resulting in over 48,000 deaths…” >>>> >>>> *The majority of Muslims…* >>>> >>>> The pervasive violence in the Muslim world inevitably raises the >>>> question of the general character of Islam and the kind of behavioral >>>> patterns it seems to generate. >>>> >>>> It also raises the thorny question of minority actions vs majority >>>> inaction. >>>> >>>> Thus, while Abu Shehadeh is probably right when he claims that only a >>>> minority of Muslims are engaged in abhorrent acts of terrorism, it is >>>> highly unlikely they would be able to sustain this activity without the >>>> support – or at least the tacit approval – of much larger segments of the >>>> population. >>>> >>>> Even if the majority does not actively endorse the conduct of a >>>> delinquent minority, there is little evidence of effective disapproval, let >>>> alone active opposition to it. (In this regard one can only hope that the >>>> extraordinarily courageous speech by Egypt’s president Abdel Fattah >>>> al-Sisi, calling for a “religious revolution,” will prove to be a harbinger >>>> of some radical change in the course Islam is currently set upon.) So, >>>> although, as Abu Shehadeh contends, it is difficult to formulate accurate >>>> generalizations for 1.6 billion people, several edifying measures are >>>> available that paint a daunting picture of the views held by much of the >>>> Muslim world. >>>> >>>> The reputable Pew Research Center has conducted numerous in-depth >>>> surveys across much of the Muslim world. Its findings show solid – at >>>> times, overwhelming – majorities in many countries (and significant >>>> minorities in others) in favor of harsh corporal punishments >>>> (whipping/amputation) for theft/robbery; death by stoning for adultery; and >>>> death for apostasy. >>>> >>>> With such a propensity for violence as a widely accepted cultural norm, >>>> it is not implausible to assume that wide sections of the Muslim population >>>> would not find the use of violence and terrorism totally incompatible with >>>> their core beliefs. >>>> >>>> *Attempts at apologetics: The ‘colonialism’ canard * >>>> >>>> Numerous attempts have been made to explain away much of the prevalence >>>> of violence in the Muslim world and conflict with the West. >>>> >>>> Arguably the most prominent among such apologists was none other than >>>> President Barack Obama. In his 2009 “outreach address” in Cairo, he offered >>>> the following explanation for the sad state of affairs between the West and >>>> Islam which, he alleged, followed “centuries of coexistence and >>>> cooperation.” (Really?) Obama suggested that “more recently, tension has >>>> been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many >>>> Muslims.” >>>> >>>> This of course holds no water. >>>> >>>> For while it is true that much of the Middle East was under imperial >>>> rule for centuries, this was mostly Muslim imperialism – i.e. the Ottoman >>>> Empire. >>>> >>>> After all, with perhaps the exception of North Africa, Western >>>> colonialism was imposed for a relatively short period after World War I, >>>> and ended soon after World War II. This hardly seems sufficient to engender >>>> the obdurate Islamic enmity we see today. >>>> >>>> So if complaints are to be lodged regarding colonialist deprivation of >>>> Muslim rights and opportunities, shouldn’t they be directed at the Muslim >>>> imperialists? Strangely, the the crucibles of today’s most extreme >>>> anti-Western Islam were barely touched by colonialism – the Arabian >>>> Peninsula and Iran. >>>> >>>> Although neither has endured any imperial – including Western – rule of >>>> any consequence, the former birthed the Sunni-derivative version of Islamic >>>> radicalism and the latter the Shia-derivative. This fact sits uneasily with >>>> the diagnosis ascribing ongoing tensions between Muslims and the West to >>>> colonialism. >>>> >>>> *No call to ‘Kill for Krishna’? * >>>> >>>> Moreover, one might well ask why the iniquities of colonialism have not >>>> afflicted, say, the Hindu-majority in India, whose people were certainly >>>> “denied rights and opportunities” under the yoke of British imperialism in >>>> the same way as the Muslims of Pakistan. >>>> >>>> Yet, somehow we hear no cries of “Kill for Krishna” or “Ganesh is >>>> Great” from embittered Hindu terrorists, blowing themselves up in crowded >>>> buses, markets, cafes and mosques, as we do across the Muslim world – >>>> including in neighboring Pakistan. >>>> >>>> Nor do we see aggrieved followers of Shiva embarking on a global holy >>>> war to subjugate all to the Hindu creed. >>>> >>>> Why has India been able to put its colonial past behind it, and become >>>> a vibrant economic juggernaut? Why has it not allowed itself to remain >>>> tethered to the past and mired in homicidal frustration? Since by far most >>>> victims of Muslim violence are other Muslims, rights and opportunities >>>> allegedly denied by foreign occupiers seven decades ago seem a poor >>>> explanation for current conduct. >>>> >>>> *Modernity as culprit? * >>>> >>>> Some have tried to contend that the onset of modernity and >>>> globalization has created a sense of threat to Islamic values, which has >>>> precipitated the tensions with the West. >>>> >>>> Thus, in Cairo, Obama suggested that “the sweeping change brought by >>>> modernity and globalization led many Muslims to view the West as hostile to >>>> Islamic traditions.” >>>> >>>> This too is difficult to accept. >>>> >>>> After all, Islam is the youngest of all major religions, founded >>>> centuries – even in some cases, millennia – after Hinduism, Buddhism, >>>> Judaism and Christianity. Why would the newest religion find that the >>>> developments of modernity threaten its traditions in a manner that, >>>> apparently, does not threaten the traditions of faiths far more ancient? >>>> Why do they not generate the same tensions with the West that we find in >>>> the case of the Muslim faith? Could it perhaps be that Islam is >>>> fundamentally incompatible not only with modernity but with anything that >>>> is not Islam, and that many cannot – or worse, refuse to – recognize this? >>>> >>>> *A clarion call * >>>> >>>> Europe in general and France in particular are on the cusp of a grim, >>>> probably gruesome, future. >>>> >>>> European leaders would do well to heed the clarion call from someone >>>> who has intimate knowledge of Islam – the Somalian-born former Dutch MP >>>> Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who was forced flee to the US because of threats from >>>> Muslims who objected to her criticism of Islam. She warned: “Islam is not a >>>> religion of peace. 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