Has Obama or Biden ever been a small business owner?

On Oct 29, 9:24�pm, WarpTen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I talk about the wealthy that run the government I'm talking
> about people who have billions, not Joe the plumber. Further, I don't
> like being referred to as a lib tagged with warfare pimp and you
> probably don't have any idea what it is. That is asinine on your part
> and lacks the maturity level required for further discourse. �If you
> have not yet reached that income level its probably because you are
> impotent. I personally have and with the better half have had a
> combined income nearly twice that amount, which is an achievement for
> two people born out of poverty. We own 3 homes in 3 states, have
> property in NY and live the good life but that does not preclude our
> ability to see the government for what it is, or what it has become,
> not to mention that their bullshit antics have cost us thousands of
> dollars. The money that Obama is going to cost me is peanuts and will
> never affect my lifestyle and won't come near the money we've lost in
> the last 8 years with Bush who cost me 12 employees. �We are pragmatic
> individuals with a keen sense of global economies, in fact when the
> housing market goes up we are selling out all we have and moving to
> Europe to get away from this sinking quagmire of political corruption.
> Your assumptions are running rampant which is indicative of your
> impudence. My comments were generalized and does not warrant a
> personal attack, however, I find immature name calling is rife in this
> forum especially among those who cannot present a clear foundation for
> point. You sound like McCain and Palin who just want to spend their
> time, and waste my time, thrashing Obama without addressing the
> issues. �It is literally a circus election year. I still stand firm
> and contend that it is time for the government to get back to its role
> as a government for the people. I don't really give a damn about
> corporations until they start manipulating our government for the sake
> of corporate gain. You talk about hand outs? What about corporate
> welfare?
>
> On Oct 29, 6:47�pm, voxitar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > you're making the same mistake SO many liberal class warfare pimps do
> > - you ASSUME that because someone isn't yet wealthy, that they
> > automatically must want someone to GIVE them a check they didn't earn,
> > and if they don't want to be given that check, they are "morons
> > without a clue." �Here's a free clue, moron - lots and lots of us
> > started out with nothing, never asked for anything, don't want a dime
> > we didn't earn, and more than happy to continue to acquire wealth the
> > old-fashioned way, by EARNING it. �i'm not yet at that magic $250K a
> > year that Obama says makes me officially "rich," but I'm doing alright
> > and I do NOT want a welfare check from people in the tax brackets
> > above me to which I myself aspire.
>
> > Obama's plan to take money from those in the upper tax brackets and
> > use it to write checks to people in the lower brackets who didn't earn
> > it and who don't make enough to owe ANY taxes at all disgusts me to my
> > core....that's REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. Some might even call it
> > socialism...I call it what it is - THEFT.
>
> > Vox
>
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM, WarpTen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Look we're all getting screwed by the wealthy people who own and
> > > operate the government!
>
> > > McCain gives this speech in PA about how Obama is going to take away
> > > their wealth. The people are yelling and screaming without realizing
> > > they don't have any wealth for anyone to take away. People who earn
> > > 30K or 40K an year who vote Republican are complete and total morons
> > > without a clue.
> > > It's the wealthy who are worried about Obama because they have
> > > millions of dollars while the rest of the population struggles to make
> > > ends meet.
> > > If you work at a fast food restaurant or any 9 to 5 job and vote
> > > Republican you are a retard.
> > > Do any of you in this forum earn more than 100K a year?
> > > McCain "Owes" the party and not only that but his "Wife" is "Wealthy",
> > > so what do you think he has in mind? They own 7 homes, how many homes
> > > do you own?
> > > One of their homes can buy 3 of mine.
> > > I'm tired of the wealthy getting wealthier on the backs of the poor
> > > and middle class.
> > > Hey! Thinking about "Class" I'm thinking we are living in the days of
> > > Feudalism.
> > > Think about it!
>
> > > On Oct 27, 9:47 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> My living expenses are not very much and dont owe anybody anything. My SS
> > >> chack actually covers my basic expenses with some left over. �You will 
> > >> get a
> > >> laugh out of this but the last suit I bought was in 1983. �My father 
> > >> died in
> > >> 84 and his clothes fit me and I have all his suits. �perfect fit. �only 
> > >> wear
> > >> to funerals anyway. wore a suit 3 times all this year.
>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >> > I am nearly all Cash right now myself...
>
> > >> > Depending on what happens November 4th, I may need the liquid assets.
>
> > >> > On Oct 27, 7:37 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > > That is why I am no longer inthe market.
>
> > >> > �> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > Capital Gains don't only affect small Business...
>
> > >> > > > On Oct 27, 6:16 pm, WarpTen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > > > > The whole of what is being purported is rife with inaccuracy and 
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > best assessment is presented by the first of the comments by 
> > >> > > > > Ben, who
> > >> > > > > states:
>
> > >> > > > > Just so you know, whoever wrote this email was either wrong or is
> > >> > > > > trying to be a fear monger. �Taxes are only on profits, that is 
> > >> > > > > net
> > >> > > > > income after all the deductible expenses are taken out of a 
> > >> > > > > business'
> > >> > > > > gross take. �The increase is only on marginal income ABOVE the 
> > >> > > > > $250k
> > >> > > > > mark, so if a business makes $260k after all expenses, then the
> > >> > higher
> > >> > > > > taxes apply to the last $10k, meaning that they'll have to pay 
> > >> > > > > $300/
> > >> > > > > year more.
>
> > >> > > > > That is not much more money for a person to pay who makes 250K.
>
> > >> > > > > Bottom line is McCain and Palin are not going to prop up the 
> > >> > > > > common
> > >> > > > > worker but will most likely pander to the wealthy and serve as
> > >> > puppets
> > >> > > > > for the master puppeteers, the Bush family Oil magnates, so they 
> > >> > > > > can
> > >> > > > > get their greazy hands on Alaskan Oil. McCain isn't even a war 
> > >> > > > > heroes
> > >> > > > > but more so one who cracked under pressure and gave in to the 
> > >> > > > > enemy
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > save his own ass. Palin is a lead weight and a mockery when it 
> > >> > > > > comes
> > >> > > > > to political office. She is under scrutiny in Alaska for her less
> > >> > than
> > >> > > > > ethical behavior all of which is unacceptable for our future
> > >> > > > > President. �We've had enough antics going back to Clinton's oral
> > >> > > > > office games, played on tax payer money. Where do these 
> > >> > > > > politicians
> > >> > > > > get off? �Yeah I know, under the table. Haha!
>
> > >> > > > > On Oct 27, 7:19 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > From: Travis
> > >> > > > > > Date: Mon, Oct 27, 2008
> > >> > > > > > Subject: A message to Obama from a small business owner
>
> > >> >http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/10/26/a-message-to-obama-from-a-small.
> > >> > > > ..
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