Cameron made it a point to say “that we should feel proud to say, ‘This is 
a Christian country.’ Yes, we’re a nation that embraces, welcomes and 
accepts all faiths and none, but we are still a Christian country.”
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opinion noted ... not shared by many Americans.

On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 1:27:14 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
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> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/obamas-christianity-a-political-tool-to-silence-christians/
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> Obama’s Christianity: A Political Tool to Silence Christians
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> By *Raymond Ibrahim* 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/author/raymond-ibrahim/> on April 15, 2015 
> in *Other Matters* <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/other-matters/> 
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> *FrontPage Magazine* 
> <http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/raymond-ibrahim/obamas-political-tool-of-christianity/>
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> Here in the United States, where Americans are used to hearing their 
> president always invoke Christianity in a manner that silences Christians, 
> United Kingdom Prime Minister David Cameron’s recent Easter message was 
> moderately refreshing.
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> Among other things, Cameron made it a point to say “that we should feel 
> proud to say, ‘This is a Christian country.’ Yes, we’re a nation that 
> embraces, welcomes and accepts all faiths and none, but we are still a 
> Christian country.”
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> The context of Cameron’s statement, it should be recalled, is a UK with a 
> large, intolerant, and aggressive Muslim populace—a populace that 
> increasingly seeks to treat the UK’s indigenous Christians the way the 
> Islamic world’s indigenous Christians are habitually treated, that is, 
> subjugated, enslaved, raped, and murdered.
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> In fact, Cameron touched on the phenomenon of Christian persecution in 
> mostly Muslim lands:
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> *We have a duty to speak out about the persecution of Christians around 
> the world too.  It is truly shocking that in 2015 there are still 
> Christians being threatened, tortured, even killed because of their faith.  
> From Egypt to Nigeria, Libya to North Korea.  Across the Middle East 
> Christians have been hounded out of their homes, forced to flee from 
> village to village; many of them forced to renounce their faith or brutally 
> murdered.  To all those brave Christians in Iraq and Syria who practice 
> their faith or shelter others, we will say, “We stand with you.”*
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> While one may argue that Cameron is all talk—after all, the UK’s foreign 
> policies, like America’s, have only exacerbated the plight of Christians in 
> the Middle East—it is still refreshing to hear such honest talk, since here 
> in the U.S., one seldom gets even that from President Obama.
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> Consider what Obama—who is on record 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik> saying “we are no longer a 
> Christian nation,” who never notes the Islamic identity of murderers or 
> the Christian identity of their victims 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/jihadis-cleansing-pakistan-of-christians/>,
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> ignored a recent UN session on Christian persecution 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/us-ignores-un-session-on-christian-genocide-in-mideast/>—had
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> to say about Christians at the Easter Prayer Breakfast:  “On Easter, I do 
> reflect on the fact that as a Christian, I am supposed to love.  And I have 
> to say that sometimes when I listen to less than loving expressions by 
> Christians, I get concerned.”
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> This is in keeping with his earlier 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/obamas-self-professed-confusion-about-islamic-terror/>
>  statements 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/obama-christianity-no-different-than-the-islamic-state/>
>  calling 
> on Americans in general Christians in particular to be nonjudgmental and 
> instead to have “humility” and “doubt” themselves.  For example, during the 
> National Prayer Breakfast last February, after Obama alluded to the 
> atrocities committed by the Islamic State—which include beheadings, 
> crucifixions, rape, slavery, and immolations—he said:
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> *I believe there are a few principles that can guide us, particularly 
> those of us who profess to believe. And, first, we should start with some 
> basic humility.  I believe that the starting point of faith is some 
> doubt—not being so full of yourself and so confident that you are right and 
> that God speaks only to us, and doesn’t speak to others, that God only 
> cares about us and doesn’t care about others, that somehow we alone are in 
> possession of the truth.*
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> Humility, of course, is a well-recognized Christian virtue.  It is the 
> exact opposite of pride; a modest if not humble opinion of oneself, one’s 
> shortcomings.   But what does exercising humility have to do with our 
> understanding of Islamic violence and terrorism, which was, after all, the 
> topic Obama was discussing immediately before he began pontificating about 
> humility?  Are we not to judge and condemn Islamic violence—since we’re 
> apparently no better, as the president made clear when he told Christians 
> to get off their “high horse” and remember the Crusades and Inquisition 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/obama-christianity-no-different-than-the-islamic-state/>
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> Furthermore, while Christian humility encourages self-doubt, it does not 
> encourage doubt concerning right and wrong, good and evil.  The same Christ 
> who advocated humility repeatedly condemned evil behavior, called on people 
> to repent of their sins, and hurled tables in righteous anger.
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> The point here is that, whenever Obama invokes Christianity and Christian 
> virtues, it is almost always in the context of trying to silence 
> Christians: telling them to “love” more—that is, to never judge or condemn 
> anything, and instead be doormats ever “turning the other cheek”; telling 
> them to remember the historic “crimes” of other Christians—even if they are a 
> thousand years old 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-true-history-of-christendom-and-islam/>
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> and no crimes at all 
> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/study-corner/the-truth-about-the-crusades/>—that
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> is, telling Christians not to criticize Islam because they too live in 
> glass houses.
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> This is the “liberal Christianity” which Obama and others hail, because 
> its chief purpose is to silence Christians from condemning and combatting 
> what are otherwise clear evils.  Christians are being persecuted by Muslims 
> all around the world?  That’s okay, seems to be Obama’s response; just turn 
> the other cheek—have some more “humility” and “doubt,” show their Islamic 
> persecutors some more “love”—and everything will be set aright.
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