*"opinion noted ... not shared by many Americans."* Not shared by 17 percent of Americans.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Cameron made it a point to say “that we should feel proud to say, ‘This is > a Christian country.’ Yes, we’re a nation that embraces, welcomes and > accepts all faiths and none, but we are still a Christian country.” > --- > opinion noted ... not shared by many Americans. > > On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 1:27:14 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/obamas- >> christianity-a-political-tool-to-silence-christians/ >> >> >> Obama’s Christianity: A Political Tool to Silence Christians >> >> By *Raymond Ibrahim* >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/author/raymond-ibrahim/> on April 15, >> 2015 in *Other Matters* >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/other-matters/> >> >> [image: Print Friendly] >> <http://www.printfriendly.com/print?url=http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/obamas-christianity-a-political-tool-to-silence-christians/> >> >> *FrontPage Magazine* >> <http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/raymond-ibrahim/obamas-political-tool-of-christianity/> >> >> Here in the United States, where Americans are used to hearing their >> president always invoke Christianity in a manner that silences Christians, >> United Kingdom Prime Minister David Cameron’s recent Easter message was >> moderately refreshing. >> >> [image: >> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/dcdcd.jpg] >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/dcdcd.jpg> >> >> Among other things, Cameron made it a point to say “that we should feel >> proud to say, ‘This is a Christian country.’ Yes, we’re a nation that >> embraces, welcomes and accepts all faiths and none, but we are still a >> Christian country.” >> >> The context of Cameron’s statement, it should be recalled, is a UK with a >> large, intolerant, and aggressive Muslim populace—a populace that >> increasingly seeks to treat the UK’s indigenous Christians the way the >> Islamic world’s indigenous Christians are habitually treated, that is, >> subjugated, enslaved, raped, and murdered. >> >> In fact, Cameron touched on the phenomenon of Christian persecution in >> mostly Muslim lands: >> >> *We have a duty to speak out about the persecution of Christians around >> the world too. It is truly shocking that in 2015 there are still >> Christians being threatened, tortured, even killed because of their faith. >> From Egypt to Nigeria, Libya to North Korea. Across the Middle East >> Christians have been hounded out of their homes, forced to flee from >> village to village; many of them forced to renounce their faith or brutally >> murdered. To all those brave Christians in Iraq and Syria who practice >> their faith or shelter others, we will say, “We stand with you.”* >> >> While one may argue that Cameron is all talk—after all, the UK’s foreign >> policies, like America’s, have only exacerbated the plight of Christians in >> the Middle East—it is still refreshing to hear such honest talk, since here >> in the U.S., one seldom gets even that from President Obama. >> >> Consider what Obama—who is on record >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik> saying “we are no longer a >> Christian nation,” who never notes the Islamic identity of murderers or >> the Christian identity of their victims >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/jihadis-cleansing-pakistan-of-christians/>, >> and who >> ignored a recent UN session on Christian persecution >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/us-ignores-un-session-on-christian-genocide-in-mideast/>—had >> to say about Christians at the Easter Prayer Breakfast: “On Easter, I do >> reflect on the fact that as a Christian, I am supposed to love. And I have >> to say that sometimes when I listen to less than loving expressions by >> Christians, I get concerned.” >> >> This is in keeping with his earlier >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/obamas-self-professed-confusion-about-islamic-terror/> >> statements >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/obama-christianity-no-different-than-the-islamic-state/> >> calling >> on Americans in general Christians in particular to be nonjudgmental and >> instead to have “humility” and “doubt” themselves. For example, during the >> National Prayer Breakfast last February, after Obama alluded to the >> atrocities committed by the Islamic State—which include beheadings, >> crucifixions, rape, slavery, and immolations—he said: >> >> *I believe there are a few principles that can guide us, particularly >> those of us who profess to believe. And, first, we should start with some >> basic humility. I believe that the starting point of faith is some >> doubt—not being so full of yourself and so confident that you are right and >> that God speaks only to us, and doesn’t speak to others, that God only >> cares about us and doesn’t care about others, that somehow we alone are in >> possession of the truth.* >> >> Humility, of course, is a well-recognized Christian virtue. It is the >> exact opposite of pride; a modest if not humble opinion of oneself, one’s >> shortcomings. But what does exercising humility have to do with our >> understanding of Islamic violence and terrorism, which was, after all, the >> topic Obama was discussing immediately before he began pontificating about >> humility? Are we not to judge and condemn Islamic violence—since we’re >> apparently no better, as the president made clear when he told >> Christians to get off their “high horse” and remember the Crusades and >> Inquisition >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/obama-christianity-no-different-than-the-islamic-state/> >> ? >> >> Furthermore, while Christian humility encourages self-doubt, it does not >> encourage doubt concerning right and wrong, good and evil. The same Christ >> who advocated humility repeatedly condemned evil behavior, called on people >> to repent of their sins, and hurled tables in righteous anger. >> >> The point here is that, whenever Obama invokes Christianity and Christian >> virtues, it is almost always in the context of trying to silence >> Christians: telling them to “love” more—that is, to never judge or condemn >> anything, and instead be doormats ever “turning the other cheek”; telling >> them to remember the historic “crimes” of other Christians—even if they are a >> thousand years old >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-true-history-of-christendom-and-islam/> >> and no crimes at all >> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/study-corner/the-truth-about-the-crusades/>—that >> is, telling Christians not to criticize Islam because they too live in >> glass houses. >> >> This is the “liberal Christianity” which Obama and others hail, because >> its chief purpose is to silence Christians from condemning and combatting >> what are otherwise clear evils. Christians are being persecuted by Muslims >> all around the world? That’s okay, seems to be Obama’s response; just turn >> the other cheek—have some more “humility” and “doubt,” show their Islamic >> persecutors some more “love”—and everything will be set aright. >> >> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> ------------------------------ >> Posted by: "beowulf" <[email protected]> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> Visit Your Group >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNDJudmFrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjkxMTU2MTI-> >> >> >> [image: Yahoo! 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