You obviously didn't read the article either Brine.....

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:

> Simple ... BOTH slit the throats of the animal and drain its blood ... the
> meat has to be bloodless, the other is that BOTH require the butcher to be
> circumcised!!!
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> You obviously didn't read the article, and know and understand the
>> distinction between "Halal" and "Kosher" blessed foods.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:17 PM, plainolamerican <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> SAN FRANCISCO (JTA) — What’s the largest kosher restaurant chain?
>>>
>>> Mendy’s? Six branches, seven if you count the meat and dairy counters at
>>> New York City’s Grand Central Station.
>>>
>>> Dougie’s? Five branches in New York and New Jersey.
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>>>
>>> Don’t even bring up Nathan’s Famous — it stopped making kosher hot dogs
>>> altogether.
>>>
>>> The dark-horse winner is Subway, the made-to-order sandwich giant poised
>>> to open its ninth kosher franchise Aug. 18 inside the Michael-Ann Russell
>>> Jewish Community Center in North Miami Beach, Fla. New Subways opening in
>>> Indianapolis and Skokie, Ill., will make it 11 by the end of the year. Five
>>> more are planned for next year.
>>>
>>> Subway is not the only fast-food chain with kosher branches. Dunkin’
>>> Donuts, the world’s largest coffee and baked goods chain, has 33 kosher
>>> franchises, mostly in New York, according to company spokesman Andrew
>>> Mastrangelo. They serve dairy breakfast sandwiches, but not full meals.
>>>
>>> Subway, the second largest fast-food franchise in the world, didn’t set
>>> out to be No. 1 in the kosher market. Staffers at company headquarters in
>>> Milford, Conn., seemed bemused by the news.
>>>
>>> “Really?” laughed Kevin Kane in the marketing department.
>>>
>>> Sure, 11 kosher stores pales in comparison to the 22,000 non-kosher
>>> Subways in the United States, or to the hundreds of halal Subways in
>>> England and the Arab world. But it’s more than anyone else is offering.
>>>
>>> And it’s a creative solution for Jewish community centers that want to
>>> offer kosher food but don’t want to take the financial risk themselves.
>>> Some would rather offer no food than violate kosher law.
>>>
>>> “There are very few JCCs that run successful food establishments,” says
>>> Eric Koehler, director of the JCC of Northern Virginia, which has never
>>> provided food services in its building. “In this economy, it doesn’t make
>>> sense to have something that loses $20,000 to $30,000 a year.”
>>>
>>> That’s why the Mandel JCC in Cleveland rented space to the country’s
>>> first kosher Subway in May 2006. The center had offered only kosher dining
>>> options since it opened in 1986, but none lasted very long. When Michael
>>> Hyman arrived in 2004 as the center’s new director, he closed the
>>> building’s last struggling cafe without knowing whether he could replace it.
>>>
>>> In stepped Ghazi Faddoul, a Lebanese Christian who had opened 100
>>> Subways in Cleveland and was willing to give kosher a try with the clout of
>>> a global chain behind him.
>>>
>>> Ham and bacon were removed from the menu, the “cheese” is made of soy,
>>> and the Seafood Sensation sandwich is filled with imitation crab. Two
>>> microwaves and toaster ovens ensure that fish and meat are kept separate, a
>>> consideration for more observant Jews. There is a full-time mashgiach, or
>>> kosher supervisor, and the restaurant is closed on Shabbat.
>>>
>>> “It’s been wildly successful,” Hyman says.In June, the JCC of Greater
>>> Washington in Rockville, Md., picked up on Cleveland’s experience, opening
>>> a kosher Subway in a space formerly filled by a kosher Dunkin’ Donuts.
>>> Executive director Michael Feinstein says the center has been getting much
>>> more foot traffic since it opened, particularly from Orthodox Jews.
>>>
>>> “There aren’t that many kosher restaurants in the D.C. area, so it’s
>>> nice for the community to have this option,” Feinstein says. “And it’s
>>> great for us because it gets people into our building who might not
>>> otherwise be there.”
>>>
>>> The Miami Beach JCC also looked to Cleveland’s example. The center’s
>>> director, Gary Bomzer, notes that the building already has an in-house
>>> kosher caterer, but no sit-down restaurant.
>>>
>>> “Bringing in a national chain gives us real credibility,” he explains.
>>> “A brand name like Subway provides more than a cup of coffee.”
>>>
>>> The remaining kosher Subways are freestanding stores: two in New York
>>> City, in Brooklyn and Queens, as well as one in Cedarhurst in the city’s
>>> Long Island suburbs; and one each in Los Angeles, Baltimore and Kansas City.
>>>
>>> The U.S. stores are the only kosher Subways. Israel opened the world’s
>>> first kosher Subway in 1992 but the operation, which reached 23 stores at
>>> its peak, shut down in 2004 after the original manager died.
>>>
>>> Subway spokesman Les Winograd says the company used its experience with
>>> halal, the Muslim standard, to learn how to deal with kashrut challenges
>>> such as sourcing specific meat and following strict dietary laws. The first
>>> halal Subway opened in Bahrain in 1984, followed by branches in Saudi
>>> Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Tanzania, Zambia and other
>>> countries with large Muslim communities. England alone has nearly 60 halal
>>> branches.
>>>
>>> Kosher Subways are more difficult to keep open, Winograd says. Some open
>>> and shut, like one that lasted for about a year in Livingston, N.J., and a
>>> Wall Street branch that closed last winter when the economy collapsed.
>>>
>>> While Winograd receives lots of inquiries from potential franchise
>>> owners in other countries who are interested in the kosher option, none
>>> have panned out.
>>>
>>> “The population has not always been there to support the business,” he
>>> says.
>>>
>>> Subway serves meat, so a kosher store requires full-time kosher
>>> supervision — an extra expense added to ingredients that already cost more
>>> than their non-kosher equivalents.
>>>
>>> Maurice Lichy, owner of the new Miami JCC Subway, says he’s trying to
>>> keep his prices “competitive” and hopes to charge no more than $1.50 extra
>>> per sandwich.
>>>
>>> Will he offer a kosher $5 Footlong?
>>>
>>> Lichy hesitates.
>>>
>>> “No," he says, "but I’ll try to manage a $6 Footlong. Probably tuna or
>>> turkey; not the corned beef.”
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 6:41:48 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Halal Meat, Please READ  !!!
>>>> “Subway” now uses Halal Meat.  “Costco” now selling Halal Meat
>>>> You decide what to do with this.......
>>>>
>>>> HALAL Meats are already in most of our local supermarkets, Watch
>>>> what you buy!!-------
>>>>
>>>> Just another symptom of Sharia law in the U.S. and Canada.
>>>>
>>>> There are 200 Subway restaurants in the U.S. that have removed all
>>>> pork products and added Halal meat to the menu!
>>>> Have You Seen this on Meat Labels???
>>>>
>>>> Take a look and forward to your friends and family. Do Not buy this
>>>> meat!
>>>> "Costco” is stocking their meat counters with " Halal"  meat."
>>>>
>>>> I shopped for groceries at my local Wal-Mart. As usual, I bought a bag
>>>> of frozen
>>>> chicken breasts, but this time I checked to make sure the meat was not
>>>> labeled
>>>> "Halal."
>>>>
>>>> Here's why: Halal is the Islamic term that basically means the meat
>>>> is lawful to eat for a devout Muslim.  What makes it lawful or
>>>> acceptable is that the meat has been processed in a very specific way.
>>>> Unlike kosher food, where the physical processing of the meat is the
>>>> focus,
>>>> for Islam it is the spiritual component that makes the meat lawful.
>>>>
>>>> Ann Barnhardt, a cattle commodities broker, has more about " Halal."
>>>> "NEVER buy meat that is marked as " Halal." I am in the cattle
>>>> business, and believe me when I tell you that Halal kill plants are
>>>> CONSTANTLY being
>>>> cited and shut down by the USDA for horrific infractions.
>>>>
>>>> Most of these plants are in Michigan and upstate New York .
>>>> One of the things that Halal Kill Plants are notorious for is putting
>>>> already-dead animals in the human consumption line.
>>>> They will go pick up a dead cow off of a farm or ranch and instead of
>>>> putting it in
>>>> their rendering tank where the resulting " tankage" is worth pennies on
>>>> the
>>>> dollar as pet food or industrial products, they will shackle the dead
>>>> animal on the normal kill line and process it as human food which is the
>>>> highest-dollar product.
>>>>
>>>> This kind of sickening behavior is standard. Halal plants are also
>>>> notorious for
>>>> general citations for filth and uncleanliness.
>>>> I have toured normal cattle slaughter plants, and in most cases, you
>>>> could eat off
>>>> of the floor. Everything is white and men walk around with water hoses
>>>> and steam guns constantly keeping everything in a state of spotlessness.
>>>> Halal plants are filthy.
>>>> A lot of Halal meat is also labeled as "organic." Again, don't be
>>>> fooled into
>>>> thinking that " halal" means "better." It isn't.
>>>> I would never, ever knowingly eat halal meat purely from a food safety
>>>> perspective."
>>>>
>>>> THIS IS COMING AND LOOK OUT FOR THIS INTRUSION IN U.S. And CANADIAN
>>>> MARKETS... " Halal" meat... Are you aware of this? Take a look and
>>>> forward to your friends and family. Do Not buy this meat!
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OH BOY`.....
>>>>
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