FROM YOUR LINK..........it does not say he IS a Natural Born citizen now does it???
it is an issued opinion, not a ruling READING COMPREHENSION!!!!!!!!!!! This order finds it highly probable, for the purposes of this motion for provisional relief, that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen. July 9, 2008 *Arizona Legal Studies Discussion Paper No. 08-14<http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621#> * *Abstract: * Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United States, but it was not incorporated into the Union. As requested by Senator McCain's campaign, distinguished constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator McCain was a natural born citizen. Neither is sound under current law. The Tribe-Olson Opinion suggests that the Canal Zone, then under exclusive U.S. jurisdiction, may have been covered by the Fourteenth Amendment's grant of citizenship to "all persons born . . . in the United States." However, in the Insular Cases, the Supreme Court held that "unincorporated territories" were not part of the United States for constitutional purposes. Accordingly, many decisions hold that persons born in unincorporated territories are not Fourteenth Amendment citizens. The Tribe-Olson Opinion also suggests that Senator McCain obtained citizenship by statute. However, the only statute in effect in 1936 did not cover the Canal Zone. Recognizing the gap, in 1937, Congress passed a citizenship law applicable only to the Canal Zone, granting Senator McCain citizenship, but eleven months too late for him to be a citizen at birth. Because Senator John McCain was not a citizen at birth, he is not a "natural born Citizen" and thus is not "eligible to the Office of President" under the Constitution. This essay concludes by exploring how changes in constitutional law implied by the Tribe-Olson Opinion, such as limiting the Insular Cases and expanding judicial review of immigration and nationality laws passed by Congress, could make Senator McCain a citizen at birth and thus a natural born citizen. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Funny... > > The COURTS Ruled on the matter. > > Again, your ignorance of the matter notwithstanding... > > http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=87147 > > Pretty sure the "Courts" are seperate from Congress. > > As for Obama and proving his... > > Perhaps you should READ the Document in question and get back to me on > whether someone ineligible can Serve as President, and then explain to > me how you believe someone not eligible should be allowed to run? > > > On Nov 3, 12:46 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A decision or law or resolution passed by "Congress" (McCain gave his > > records to the Senate, NOT Congress... your ignorance notwithstanding, > but > > very telling) > > does not have the strength of nor does it supercede or set aside the > > constitution....your ignorance or wishful/fantasy thinking also > > notwithstanding. > > > > Why has Obama not acted in the same, or even a like manner, when such > > a thing is questioned of him? > > Show me the article, clause or law that says he should. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > No. > > > > > I believe I have a Duty to uphold it in the terms "I" believe it to be > > > written, and not simply go with what you and your's believe it to be. > > > > > When questioned about such a thing, McCain gave ALL of his Records to > > > Congress, and let them decide if he was or was not able to Serve as > > > President. > > > > > Why has Obama not acted in the same, or even a like manner, when such > > > a thing is questioned of him? > > > > > On Nov 3, 12:34 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I did not write the laws you find lacking.......... However we BOTH > have > > > a > > > > duty to see it upheld AS WRITTEN.....not more not less. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 3, 12:28 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I do not believe , I know, the constitution has the force of law. > So > > > far > > > > > it > > > > > > has not been broken. > > > > > > > You and your's attempt to do just that notwithstanding... > > > > > > > If he Wins, and it is proven he cannot Serve, do you think all > those > > > > > people were planning on their Vote going to Joe Biden? > > > > > > > I don't think so. > > > > > > > And so we have you and yours intentionally trying to change the > > > > > outcome of an Election, simply because you were not of the mindset > to > > > > > check your Candidate for his ability to Serve under the terms set > > > > > forth in the Document you "claim" to cherish... > > > > > > > Interesting. > > > > > > -- > > > > Mark M. Kahle > > > > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me- > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > Mark M. Kahle > > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me- > Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- Mark M. Kahle Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
