Hypocrisy is my bête noir Keith, and they are all guilty of this, see all the broken promises after they get elected, far as the south is concerned, I was amazed several months ago when (I think) they wanted to do away with the confederate flag, how ridiculous, it's a part of history and I couldn't see how it could be offensive or even a rallying point for anything racist, here though I must admit to some bias, I love your southern states.
Far as moslem disparaging remarks you mention, I truly believe that it's a case of pouring oil over troubled waters, hoping to diffuse any possible difficult situation using a carrot rather than a stick. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Pluto, > > We probably agree more than we disagree here....My only distinction is > that I think it's ridiculous to now attack gun ownership, the 2nd Amendment > to our Constitution, and in general for the White House to start a very > partisan Anti-Firearm discussion in this Nation after the San Bernadino > terrorist attack. > > I know that you live in Australia, but you seem to keep abreast of U.S. > News better than a lot of Americans do. Did you notice that President > Obama never raised the issue of firearms, background checks, or anything > relating to these horrific deaths after the Kate Steinle murder in San > Franscisco several months ago? The same can be said for the President and > his Administration after each weekend when dozens of Black Teenagers are > murdered in gang violence in Baltimore, Chicago and other big cities where > Democrats have been in control (and have strict gun control laws already in > place); today was the first or second tiime I've even heard the President > address these gangland style killings in Chicago or Baltimore. > > The hypocrisy is just stunning to me. For instance, right now there is a > large movement in this Nation to do away with anything relating to > "Southern Heritage"; be it statutes of Confederate Soldiers, Politicians, > or even our founding fathers, who may (or may not) have supported slavery; > yet the Obama Adminisration is attempting to criminalize disparaging > remarks made agaiinst Muslims or Islam; much less anyone who dares complain > about Islamic presence in this Nation, or individuals wearing a Burka where > they are unidentifiable. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:05 PM, pluto of brougham < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Keith, not to trust Presidents/PM's and their administrations/governments >> I feel should be mandatory, as you know, I don't trust politicians of any >> flavour, however his proposals are so trivial that opposition to them >> unfathomable; what citizens should really be worried about, and this >> applies to all of us, is the way that, under the excuse of >> terrorists/terrorism, our privacy re metadata and such, is being so >> severely infringed upon. >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Pluto, background checks are already required to purchase any type of >>> firearm in this Nation today. I haven't read President Obama's Executive >>> Order yet; (I haven't even seen it); but the President's "hype" and >>> purported focus on background checks is all hype, and I suspect a ruse to >>> get around the President's real intent to implement the White House's (and >>> liberal's) plan to deny the sale of any firearm to individuals who might >>> appear on the government's "No Fly" list; which is this mysterious list >>> that no one in the general public (or the Congress) knows how or why this >>> list is created or fashioned....At one point in time, the list included >>> Congressmen and Senators to include Senator Ted Kennedy. There's no due >>> process in this list; or any form of an appeal. >>> >>> The Obama Administration and those Americans who would like to see >>> firearms banned in the U.S. have triedso many underhanded, >>> Unconstitutional measures, (by example banning ammunition; taxing gun >>> stores and gun manufacturers; auditing these same types of businesses; as >>> well as a host of other actions I'm not even thinking about or I forget >>> right now) that the American public does not trust the President or his >>> Administration. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:36 PM, pluto of brougham < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Keith, I listened to what you sent (no picture) speaker is >>>> definitely rusted right winger, however, would it actually reduce >>>> past/future criminal sentences, (you would know) if so, I'm sure an >>>> unintended consequence of this bill, but in truth, what is so dramatic >>>> about requiring any gun owner to have a background check, I'm sure that you >>>> need to have that done whenever you buy something on credit/bank loan etc. >>>> so much more appropriate when buying a weapon >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:20 PM, pluto of brougham < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You're opinion means shit >>>>> >>>>> You illustrate exactly my point exactly, an ignorant base born turd >>>>> who no doubt spends his days swilling moonshine and playing with himself, >>>>> a >>>>> bit hard for you admittedly, as you have more dick in your personality >>>>> than you do in your pants >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:03 PM, cackalackyhacky < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You're opinion means shit, foreign fuck. Cram your opinion up your >>>>>> non American cunt. What do you think has made this a "great" country? >>>>>> >>>>>> Powered by Cricket Wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> pluto of brougham <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed Keith, in fucking deed, this is the first person I have read >>>>>> that states the facts as they are, this morning I woke to hear the >>>>>> President make such an emotional appeal to the SANE and ETHICAL citizens >>>>>> of >>>>>> your country, the only thing I was disappointed in, was that the measures >>>>>> he considered were so piss weak, viz "The US Bureau of Alcohol, >>>>>> Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives now will require that people who sell >>>>>> guns >>>>>> at stores, at gun shows or over the Internet be licensed and conduct >>>>>> checks, officials said. >>>>>> >>>>>> The ATF was finalising a rule requiring background checks for buyers >>>>>> of dangerous weapons from a trust, corporation or other legal entity as >>>>>> well." >>>>>> >>>>>> In my view he should have ordered a total impounding of all firearms, >>>>>> it is so frustrating for us CIVILISED people of the globe to see such a >>>>>> great nation be dictated to by the fucking red neck illiterate scum of >>>>>> Christendom, the cancerous boils on the arse-hole of society, that shrug >>>>>> off each and every gun related crime committed saying "I'm alright Jack, >>>>>> fuck you" >>>>>> >>>>>> If this sounds emotional, it fucking well is, and I make no >>>>>> apologies, after arguing the facts in moderate and considerate way and >>>>>> getting no sound response, it's enough to drive a saint to distraction, >>>>>> may >>>>>> those fucking evil cock-sucking mother-fucking gun loving arse-holes burn >>>>>> in the eighth circle of hell for eternity. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Susan Winter is obviously a Plain Ol' goofy broad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Bruce Majors <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: *SUSAN WITTNER [email protected] >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> [contrariansociety]* <contrariansociety@ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.stonekettle.com/2016/01/bang-bang-crazy-part-five-update.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> clearly said, so why the screaming about losing freedom? 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