Watching the uniformed speculate over false narratives is always amusing! https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/04/walter-scott-shooting-case-update-officer-michael-slager-bonded-from-jail-judge-and-prosecutor-deny-speedy-trial/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/12/game-changer-or-paradigm-shift-walter-scott-shooting-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts/ On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:34 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > According to the FBI there were 27 murdered on the job in 2014 and 51 > (yes, FIFTY-ONE) murdered on the job in 2015. > There have been at least 26 police officers killed on the job using guns > so far this year. That means we will no doubt lose at least 50 by the end > of the year > --- > so there must also have been a war on police last year also, right? > > there needs to be a war on policemen who shoot unarmed civilians in the > back. > > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 9:21:12 PM UTC-5, Perplexed wrote: >> >> >> The data cited in your article is quite outdated. Most of it only goes >> through 2012 and this is 2016. The militant black movements didn't start >> getting support from the mainstream media, NFL players, celebrities, and >> every dumbass democrat in the House of Representatives until late 2014 >> after months of the "hands up don't shoot" bs lies they all pushed to the >> mobs. >> >> According to the FBI there were 27 murdered on the job in 2014 and 51 >> (yes, FIFTY-ONE) murdered on the job in 2015. >> >> There have been at least 26 police officers killed on the job using guns >> so far this year. That means we will no doubt lose at least 50 by the end >> of the year even if it doesn't get any worse. That's more than TWICE - and >> almost THREE TIMES the number of blacks who were killed by cops who weren't >> doing something to warrant being killed. >> >> So what there isn't is a war or open season on black people. THAT is the >> lie that needs to stop being told. There IS, however, an ALARMING increase >> in the number of cops being shot by murderous thugs doing so based on the >> PACK OF LIES being fed to them by disgusting democrats, a dishonest media, >> and black activists. >> >> >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:45:37 PM UTC-4, MJ wrote: >>> >>> >>> Karen DeCoster >>> >>> *"Let Radley Balko's article shut up all of the hyperventilating >>> diptards. Facts are more powerful than your state-worship and >>> ignorance-based cliché recitals. " *September 10, 2015 >>> >>> *Once again: There is no ‘war on cops.’ And those who claim otherwise >>> are playing a dangerous game. *By Radley Balko >>> >>> Here’s Fox News earlier this week, shamelessly exploiting a tragedy to >>> gin up outrage. >>> http://youtu.be/x9uJHbXpMoU >>> >>> >>> They certainly aren’t the only ones. Here are some more examples of >>> media outlets and politicians spreading the hysteria: >>> >>> - “War On Police Sparks National Crime Wave” >>> >>> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/090315-769630-war-on-police-fuels-national-crime-wave.htm> >>> - “Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick: There’s A War On Cops And Media ‘Are Not In >>> Police Officers’ Corner'” >>> >>> <http://keranews.org/post/lt-gov-dan-patrick-there-s-war-cops-and-media-are-not-police-officers-corner> >>> - “Police face recruiting shortage due to war on cops” >>> >>> <http://nypost.com/2015/09/07/police-face-recruiting-shortage-due-to-war-on-cops/> >>> - “Do Cops’ Lives Matter to Obama?” >>> >>> <http://www.creators.com/opinion/pat-buchanan/do-cops-lives-matter-to-obama.html> >>> - “[New York Police Chief] Bratton warns of tough times ahead due to >>> ‘war on cops'” >>> >>> <http://nypost.com/2015/09/01/bratton-warns-tough-times-ahead-due-to-war-on-cops/> >>> >>> >>> As I’ve noted here before, we’re seeing similar rhetoric from >>> politicians, particularly from GOP presidential hopefuls, including Donald >>> Trump >>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAAahUKEwiluonVntvHAhWMGj4KHVH4DEE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fpost-politics%2Fwp%2F2015%2F08%2F29%2Ftrump-in-tennessee-downplays-police-brutality-promises-to-get-rid-of-gangs%2F&usg=AFQjCNGui_Bt4Y3H6WAqTfDAYsjwb6Xwbw&sig2=yxNyOcv5Baxu3zBZMH_cMA>, >>> Ted Cruz >>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QqQIwAGoVChMIutzS3p7bxwIVgnE-Ch1K6g2N&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.com%2Frachel-maddow-show%2Fted-cruz-shows-how-not-respond-police-killings&usg=AFQjCNE4qkak84teylpnfVZ2njiLAsbBIg&sig2=Om0suqndg5UpN_fgSH_puw&bvm=bv.101800829,d.cWw>, >>> and Scott Walker. >>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/09/03/scott-walker-couldnt-be-more-wrong-about-the-threat-to-police-officers/> >>> >>> All of this fact-free fearmongering is having an effect. A Rasmussen >>> poll taken last week >>> <http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/august_2015/58_think_there_s_a_war_on_police_in_america_today>found >>> that 58 percent of respondents now believe there is now a “war on police.” >>> Just 27 percent disagreed. >>> >>> So let’s go through the numbers. Again >>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/10/02/once-again-police-work-is-not-getting-more-dangerous/>. >>> So far, 2015 is on pace to see 35 felonious killings of police officers. If >>> that pace holds, this year would end with the second lowest number of >>> murdered cops in decades. Here’s a graph depicting annual killings of cops >>> with firearms from Mark A. Perry at the American Enterprise Institute: >>> <https://www.aei.org/publication/is-there-really-a-war-on-cops-the-data-show-that-2015-will-likely-be-one-of-the-safest-years-in-history-for-police/> >>> [image: PerryAEI] >>> >>> But these are just the raw numbers. If we look at the *rate* of >>> killings of cops, the trend is more pronounced. There are two ways examine >>> the rate of police killings. The first is to look at the rate of killings >>> of cops per 100K cops on the street. This figure is somewhat difficult to >>> calculate because there are widely varying estimates of how many cops are >>> on the street. It depends on how you define “police officer,” who is doing >>> the estimating, and various other factors. But if you use consistent >>> sources, the number of police has generally gone up, while the number of >>> officers killed has generally gone down. So your graph looks something like >>> this one, from Dan Wang >>> <http://danwang.co/statistics-on-police-fatalities/>: >>> [image: FKPer100KCops] >>> >>> The other way you could measure the rate of killings of police officers >>> is to look at the number with respect to the overall population. Here’s >>> another graph from Perry that plots those figures: >>> [image: police1] >>> >>> As you can see, by this measure 2015 is shaping up to be the second >>> safest year for police *ever, *after 2013. >>> >>> Speaking of which, it’s important to note again here that 2013 was an >>> abnormally and historically low year for police fatalities, as this graph >>> from University of South Carolina law professor (and former police officer) >>> Seth Stoughton shows. >>> >>> [Tweets @ link] >>> >>> So when police advocates say that 2014 saw an 80+ percent increase in >>> homicides of cops over 2013, remember a few things: First, 2013 wasn’t just >>> an all-time low, it was an all-time low by a significant margin. Second, >>> the 2013 figure was so low that even a small increase will look large when >>> expressed as a percentage. Third, the figure for the following year, 2014, >>> (51 officers killed) was essentially consistent with the average for the >>> previous five years (50 killed), and still lower than any five-year average >>> going back to 1960. ( See this graph >>> <http://i1.wp.com/danwang.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/average-police-fatalities-decade.png>, >>> also from Wang.) Fourth, again, 2015 is on pace (35 killings) to be lower >>> than any year but 2013. Another common response from police organizations >>> and their advocates is that the reduction in fatalities is due to better >>> medical care and improvements in protective gear such as bulletproof vests. >>> Both things are undoubtedly true. But *assaults* on police officers are >>> in decline as well. That is, not only are fewer people killing police >>> officers, fewer people are trying to harm them. These graphs from Stoughton >>> show the raw numbers of assaults on police: >>> [image: AssaultGraph] >>> >>> >>> [image: WeaponGraph] >>> >>> As you can see, at best you could argue that assaults on police with >>> firearms are about even with where they’ve been for most of the last >>> decade, save for a dip in 2009 and 2010. But these too are raw figures. >>> When we look at the rate of assault on cops, from either the perspective of >>> total cops or total population, the downward trend once again becomes more >>> pronounced. From Daniel Bier >>> <http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2014/08/21/methodological-notes-on-police-fatalities-and-assaults/>, >>> here are two graphs looking at the assault *rates* on police officers. >>> [image: 20150320_assaultandinjuryrates1] >>> >>> Any murder of a police officer is a tragedy. (As is any murder of a >>> non-police officer.) But media outlets, politicians, and police advocates >>> do real damage when they push this false narrative about a rising threat to >>> law enforcement. First, this sort of propaganda weights the public debate >>> and discourse. When there’s a fictional “war on cops” blaring in the >>> background, it becomes much more difficult to have an honest discussion >>> about police cameras, police militarization, use of lethal force policies, >>> police discipline, police transparency >>> <https://twitter.com/romenesko/status/639220767553626112>, training, >>> police accountability, and a host of other issues. Of course, that’s >>> precisely the point. >>> >>> But there’s also a much more pernicious effect of exaggerating the >>> threats faced by law enforcement. When cops are constantly told that >>> they’re under constant fire, or that every interaction with a citizen could >>> be their last, or that they’re fortunate each time they come home from the >>> job in one piece, it’s absolute poison for police-community relations. That >>> kind of reminder on a regular basis would put *anyone* on edge. We’re >>> putting police officers in a perpetually combative mindset that >>> psychologically isolates them from the communities they serve. Incessantly >>> telling cops that they’re under fire can condition them to see the people >>> with whom they interact not as citizens with rights, but as potential >>> threats. That not only means more animosity, anger and confrontation, it >>> can also be a barrier to building relationships with people in the >>> community the sorts of relationships that help police officers solve >>> crimes and keep communities safe. >>> >>> It also just makes for a miserable work life. If you’ve been trained to >>> think your job is getting progressively more dangerous, and that a >>> significant percentage of the people you encounter on a daily basis want to >>> do you harm, you’re going to be less tolerant of dissent. You’re going to >>> constantly be on-guard, on-edge, and jumpy. That isn’t a state of mind >>> that’s conducive to de-escalation, that opts for persuasion over brute >>> force, or seeks out peaceful conflict resolution. It’s a state of mind >>> ruled by the limbic system, not the frontal lobe. And yes, it’s a state of >>> mind that makes an officer more likely to reach for his gun >>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/09/26/a-sort-of-defense-of-south-carolina-state-trooper-sean-groubert/>. >>> Again, this isn’t a comment on cops. It’s a comment on human beings in >>> general. >>> >>> An over-emphasis on and obsession with a “war on cops” would be >>> dangerous and counterproductive even if it were true. But by every >>> imaginable measure, it *just isn’t true*. When this false narrative >>> comes from police organizations and their supporters, it’s at least >>> somewhat understandable. When it comes from politicians, it’s grandstanding >>> and demagoguery. When it comes from media organizations, it’s journalistic >>> malpractice. And it’s almost certainly getting people killed. >>> >>> One last point: I’ve seen some police officials and their advocates >>> respond to these statistics by pointing out that even if assaults and >>> killings of cops are down, anti-police *rhetoric* is increasing. >>> Therefore, they say, they’re justified in proclaiming that there’s a war on >>> the police. This is nonsense. Police agencies are government agencies. >>> They’re government agencies in whom we entrust the power to detain, arrest, >>> and kill. Yes, it’s true that some people are demanding more of those >>> agencies. It’s true that personal technology is enabling people to create >>> an independent video narrative of their interactions with police. It’s true >>> that those videos have sometimes revealed police misconduct and brutality, >>> and that police officers, like all people, sometimes mis-remember, >>> misstate, and outright lie when recounting contentious, traumatic, >>> high-stakes incidents. And it’s true that because of all of this, the >>> public as a whole today finds police officers as a whole less >>> trustworthy than in the past >>> <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/26/public-trust-police-low-poll-finds/>. >>> It’s also true that some activists, pundits, and politicians are demanding >>> more accountability, transparency, and training for police. >>> >>> None of these things are indicative of a “war.” On the contrary, all of >>> this new skepticism, criticism, forced transparency, and mistrust of the >>> police is again coming even as violence against police officers is >>> reaching historic lows. This is how a democracy is supposed to work. It’s >>> something worth celebrating. >>> >>> Instead, police groups and their advocates are claiming that the mere >>> act of criticizing a government entity is akin to declaring war on it, and >>> that therefore, police critics are culpable every time a police officer is >>> murdered. (And given the way they ignore and abuse statistics, those >>> critics are also apparently culpable for a lot of murders that never >>> happened.) They’re essentially saying that exercising constitutional rights >>> and participating in democracy are in and of themselves acts of violence. >>> And in many cases, this is coming from the very people that the government >>> empowers to use actual violence. >>> >>> *That* is something worth worrying about. >>> >>> >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/09/10/once-again-there-is-no-war-on-cops-and-those-who-claim-otherwise-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/ >>> >> -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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