Plain Ol'; this woman "Maria" was interviewed on the FOX Report that you initially posted. No dancing Israelis; and this turned out to be the van that was stopped, the five men detained, and it turned out that two of them were Mossad, sent here to study the Islamic Terrorists here in the U.S..
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:59 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > As I originally pointed out, there were no Israelis "dancing" after > 9/11....No one within the video clips, or in any news media has ever made > that allegation. > --- > http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885 > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> As I originally pointed out, there were no Israelis "dancing" after >> 9/11....No one within the video clips, or in any news media has ever made >> that allegation. >> >> I spent over an hour reviewing and reading the reports of these purported >> Israelis who were detained shortly after 9/11/2001; including the article >> that Plain Ol posted. Nothing all that significant....I even listened to >> the New Jersey policeman who made the initial arrest of the original >> five.....Again, nothing significant; despite an extensive interrogation and >> detainment; multiple lie detector tests administered; and clearly no >> connection whatsoever to the Islamic/Bin Laden attacks on 9/11. It was >> concluded that the Israelis here in the U.S. were sent here to spy on the >> Islamic encampments that we allow to openly operate; and of which Plain Ol' >> (and his far left secular progressive camp believes is, "Not An American >> Concern". >> >> Instead, this is old news, and even when it was contemporary; it wasn't >> the focal point of who was flying planes into our skyscrapers or >> threatening our Nation...... >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:23 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> FOX News reported on "Five Dancing Israeli's" and come to find out, no >>> one saw any Israeli's dancing....FOX News didn't report that; (the >>> headlines are way, way, waaaay misleading!) >>> --- >>> http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885 >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0 >>> >>> There were in fact five Israelis detained on Route 3 close to the >>> Meadowlands; because of a report of a white van possibly with explosives. >>> --- >>> Fox News reported that there were more than 60 israelis detained after >>> 911 ... but who is counting? >>> >>> Come to find out, there were no explosives.....No weapons....The >>> Israeli's were cooperative; and could very well have been Mossad Agents, >>> but they were never charged...Never accused of "Dancing after 9/11"; and >>> were released. >>> --- >>> >>> The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in >>> Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the >>> United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge >>> ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA >>> officials in Washington put a hold on the case. >>> >>> The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of >>> them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were >>> given as many as seven lie-detector tests. >>> >>> Plenty of Speculation >>> >>> Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, >>> and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a >>> respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two >>> of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives. >>> >>> Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism >>> with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities' >>> interest in the case was heightened when some of the men's names were found >>> in a search of a national intelligence database. >>> >>> Israeli Intelligence Connection? >>> >>> According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community >>> believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli >>> intelligence. Cannistraro said there was speculation as to whether Urban >>> Moving had been "set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an >>> intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly >>> in the New Jersey-New York area." >>> >>> Under this scenario, the alleged spying operation was not aimed against >>> the United States, but at penetrating or monitoring radical fund-raising >>> and support networks in Muslim communities like Paterson, N.J., which was >>> one of the places where several of the hijackers lived in the months prior >>> to Sept. 11. >>> >>> For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be >>> difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test >>> for 10 weeks — then failed it, according to his lawyer. Another of his >>> lawyers told us Kurzberg had been reluctant to take the test because he had >>> once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country. >>> >>> Sources say the Israelis were targeting these fund-raising networks >>> because they were thought to be channeling money to Hamas and Islamic >>> Jihad, groups that are responsible for most of the suicide bombings in >>> Israel. "[The] Israeli government has been very concerned about the >>> activity of radical Islamic groups in the United States that could be a >>> support apparatus to Hamas and Islamic Jihad," Cannistraro said. >>> >>> The men denied that they had been working for Israeli intelligence out >>> of the New Jersey moving company, and Ram Horvitz, their Israeli attorney, >>> dismissed the allegations as "stupid and ridiculous." >>> >>> Mark Regev, the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, goes >>> even further, asserting the issue was never even discussed with U.S. >>> officials. >>> >>> "These five men were not involved in any intelligence operation in the >>> United States, and the American intelligence authorities have never raised >>> this issue with us," Regev said. "The story is simply false." >>> >>> No ‘Pre-Knowledge’ >>> >>> Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within >>> the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government >>> officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli >>> intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has >>> not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events >>> of 9/11." >>> >>> Sources also said that even if the men were spies, there is no evidence >>> to conclude they had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on Sept. >>> 11. The investigation, at the end of the day, after all the polygraphs, all >>> of the field work, all the cross-checking, the intelligence work, concluded >>> that they probably did not have advance knowledge of 9/11," Cannistraro >>> noted. >>> >>> As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the >>> attack on the Internet, couldn't see it from their offices and went to the >>> parking lot for a better view. But no one has been able to find a good >>> explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World >>> Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men >>> and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct. >>> >>> According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials >>> worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of >>> jail, put on a plane, and deported back home. >>> >>> While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS' questions about >>> their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the >>> detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show >>> after their return home. >>> >>> Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the >>> morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a >>> country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the >>> event." >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> This is another classic example of what I keep talking about. Plain >>>> Ol' posts a couple of videos, claiming that FOX News reported on "Five >>>> Dancing Israeli's" and come to find out, no one saw any Israeli's >>>> dancing....FOX News didn't report that; (the headlines are way, way, waaaay >>>> misleading!) >>>> >>>> There were in fact five Israelis detained on Route 3 close to the >>>> Meadowlands; because of a report of a white van possibly with explosives. >>>> >>>> Come to find out, there were no explosives.....No weapons....The >>>> Israeli's were cooperative; and could very well have been Mossad Agents, >>>> but they were never charged...Never accused of "Dancing after 9/11"; and >>>> were released. >>>> >>>> Again Plain Ol'; read, study, watch the videos before you post them; >>>> and learn what it is that your actually talking about before you get into >>>> adult conversations. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:51 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> the big 3 networks reporting "swarms" of muslims celebrating on a >>>>> rooftop in New Jersey. >>>>> --- >>>>> a lie ... but Fox News did report on the israelis who were dancing on >>>>> 911. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 4:39:14 PM UTC-5, Perplexed wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I recall it as well Keith. And plainol was given a link last week >>>>>> showing one of the big 3 networks reporting "swarms" of muslims >>>>>> celebrating >>>>>> on a rooftop in New Jersey. >>>>>> >>>>>> But for some reason he continues to tout the same debunked leftwing >>>>>> bs. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:30:42 PM UTC-4, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trump was 100 percent correct on his statement that he witnessed a >>>>>>> multitude of Muslims celebrating after te 9/11 attack. I remember the >>>>>>> reports also: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auKMHkZJnQ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/428978587288437/videos/486795458173416/?pnref=story >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:12 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the right to call their unions "marriage" by the Supreme Court >>>>>>>> wasn't enough; now they insist on forcing unwilling artists to attend >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> participate in their weddings >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> your homophobia has been noted. >>>>>>>> LGBT's are getting equal rights ... regardless of what myth >>>>>>>> believing xians and muzzies want. >>>>>>>> Sane and logical Americans have their backs ... no longer will myth >>>>>>>> believing xians be able to kill and persecute them with impunity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What lie(s) did Trump tell *specifically* about hispanics, >>>>>>>> illegals, and >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Donald Trump has built his 2016 campaign for President largely on >>>>>>>> demonizing Hispanic Americans by claiming that immigrants from south >>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>> border are “rapists” and “criminals” and other insults, while >>>>>>>> suggesting >>>>>>>> that he would round up all eleven million undocumented immigrants and >>>>>>>> cast >>>>>>>> them off. Not surprisingly, that’s made him popular with the prejudiced >>>>>>>> white conservatives who dominate the republican party. But now Trump is >>>>>>>> claiming that he has 31% of the Hispanic vote – which is a huge lie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Muslims? >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Trump's outrageous claim that 'thousands' of New Jersey Muslims ... >>>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/> >>>>>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../donald-*trumps*-outrageous-*c* >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/#> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=599&q=related:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/+Trump+claimed+thousands+of+muslims+NJ+dancing+on+911.&tbo=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjujaba6u7NAhWKaT4KHUvyDScQHwgfMAA> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Washington Post >>>>>>>> Nov 22, 2015 - Trump's outrageous claim that 'thousands' of New >>>>>>>> Jersey Muslims celebrated the9/11 attacks ... And in a foreword >>>>>>>> for a book titled “Where Were You On 9/11?,” Trump ... There were >>>>>>>> no flags burning, no one was dancing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-5, Perplexed wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What lie(s) did Trump tell *specifically* about hispanics, >>>>>>>>> illegals, and Muslims? Name them and prove they are lies; thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And maybe, like millions of Americans, Trump sees that the LGBT >>>>>>>>> crowd will never be satisfied. Being granted the right to call their >>>>>>>>> unions >>>>>>>>> "marriage" by the Supreme Court wasn't enough; now they insist on >>>>>>>>> forcing >>>>>>>>> unwilling artists to attend and participate in their weddings, and to >>>>>>>>> force >>>>>>>>> 6th grade girls all over America to shower and change with boys with >>>>>>>>> penises - because they claim to *feel* like girls. Maybe he sees the >>>>>>>>> slippery slope we are sliding down in trampling the rights of some >>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>> others over nothing but emotion and the psychological need to be >>>>>>>>> deemed >>>>>>>>> "normal". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-4, plainolamerican >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> up until Donald Trump became the prime contender for he >>>>>>>>>> Republican Nominee; NO ONE ever suggested that Donald Trump was a >>>>>>>>>> racist, >>>>>>>>>> or a bigot; or was Ant-Semitic; nor was it suggested that Trump was a >>>>>>>>>> Homophobe or an Islamophobe >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> that was before he started lying about hispanics and illegals, >>>>>>>>>> muslims and changed his opinions about lgbt's. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> yes, Trump is a bigot, racist, homophobe, islamophobe and a huge >>>>>>>>>> NYC asshole that Americans will never elect. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know it's going to hurt, Keith, but start learning to say >>>>>>>>>> President Clinton again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 1:42:13 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey Bruce, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Trump has made no excuse(s) for his tweets, Facebook posts, or >>>>>>>>>>> in particular the post being referenced (which he didn't do, that >>>>>>>>>>> we're >>>>>>>>>>> discussing now; a meme portraying "Lying Crooked Hil Clinton" with >>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>> image behind her of money floating around, and a red star stating >>>>>>>>>>> "Most >>>>>>>>>>> Corrupt Candidate Ever": >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There's no reference to Jews in this meme. The Trump campaign >>>>>>>>>>> changed the image shortly after complaints, which Donald Trump >>>>>>>>>>> vociferously >>>>>>>>>>> complained about. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As Perp and others have stated frequently; up until Donald >>>>>>>>>>> Trump became the prime contender for he Republican Nominee; NO ONE >>>>>>>>>>> ever >>>>>>>>>>> suggested that Donald Trump was a racist, or a bigot; or was >>>>>>>>>>> Ant-Semitic; >>>>>>>>>>> nor was it suggested that Trump was a Homophobe or an Islamophobe. >>>>>>>>>>> As Perp >>>>>>>>>>> rightfully points out, this is a tactic right out of the Saual >>>>>>>>>>> Alinsky/Marshall Kirk/Hunter Madsen playbooks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Brian Bednarek < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am on the record as disliking both Hillary and Trump ... I >>>>>>>>>>>> don't feel either should be President!!! I also never voted for >>>>>>>>>>>> our current >>>>>>>>>>>> President nor the one before that ... I do admit that I voted for >>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>> Clinton the first time, but not the second!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:10 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be aware of the implications when legions of >>>>>>>>>>>>> leftloons in this country wake up each day looking for reasons to >>>>>>>>>>>>> claim >>>>>>>>>>>>> victim status or to be aggrieved about something. Millions of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans >>>>>>>>>>>>> finally reaches the breaking point with this ignorant crap and >>>>>>>>>>>>> tells you to >>>>>>>>>>>>> stfu or simply laughs at you and the ignorant leftwing media >>>>>>>>>>>>> parroting your >>>>>>>>>>>>> idiocy (and ironically, *your* bigotry). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The left shot their wad calling anyone who disagreed with >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama on anything a "racist" for the past 8 years. And all you've >>>>>>>>>>>>> done for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the past year is claim Trump is a scary racist and Islamophobe >>>>>>>>>>>>> for wanting >>>>>>>>>>>>> to end the relentless assault on this country by illegal aliens >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear and present danger of radical Islamic terrorists using our >>>>>>>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>>>>>>> borders to infiltrate America and harm our citizenry. No offense, >>>>>>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>>>>>> personally don't give an ounce of credence to pretty much >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything you guys >>>>>>>>>>>>> proclaim is the latest national outrage - particularly when it >>>>>>>>>>>>> involves >>>>>>>>>>>>> such lazy, effortless manufactured outrage such as claiming a >>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>> enemy is a racist, homophobe, or anti-Semitic. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 11:37:47 AM UTC-4, brine wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is that as a New Yorker the person who does his >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets should be aware of the implications of a 6 pointed star >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and money in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an image!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:24 AM, 'Perplexed' via >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PoliticalForum <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I didn't grow up in the NY metro area, nor did most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans spend their lives around the 2% who are Jewish. On >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the contrary, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of us grew up in places where a 6-pointed star - or any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> star - is seen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more often in the context of a sheriff's badge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I grew up in the Midwest, and as I said, most of us don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend our time looking for ways to be a victim or offended. We >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leave that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of insanity to those of you on the coasts and our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate pockets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of miserable, constantly aggrieved leftwing nutjobs. In my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankfully they only exist on college campuses and a couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metro areas; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of us are sane. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 10:33:54 AM UTC-4, brine wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess you didn't grow up in the New York metro area and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend most of you life around Jewish people ... there is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long history of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbolism attacking Jews for being greedy ... I ALWAYS see the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 pointed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> star as the Star of David!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 9:55 AM, 'Perplexed' via >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PoliticalForum <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't possibly disagree more with you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you go to the Clip Art choices in Microsoft Word under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the generic category of "STAR", you see the very same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6-pointed star. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vast majority of people don't think like that - including me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million years would I have assumed that was a Star of David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, I also don't assume welfare is racist. I don't look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for signs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone is a bigot or a reason to scream, "Racist!" or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anti-Semite!". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only those who, themselves, are inherently bigoted or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afflicted with the leftloon disease of being terminally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggrieved and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offended (whether honestly as the leftwing victimology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine dictates or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dishonestly as a means to attack Trump) jumped to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Star of David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man's daughter and son-in-law are Jewish, for crying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out loud. Get a grip! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, brine wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The anti-semetic aspect of the tweet is the fact that it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plays into the stereotype of money grubbing jews ... the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disney thing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many others that use a star are not pushing an agenda ... I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am 100% sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the person who tweets for Mr. Trump was aware of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbolism ... 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