Michael I suggest you read my initial response a little closer; I pointed out at least three or four examples of where Gutzman was misplaced.
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:12 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > You claim Gutman was wrong, then offered NOTHING to support -- merely a > series of apologies and appeals. > Gingrich's failed "revolution" is all one needs to readily conclude he is > merely part of the problem. Imagine had the Rs followed through with their > rhetoric .... Obama who? > > Regard$, > --MJ > > "Gingrich has never been a conservative," according to an appraisal in May > 2011 by The American Conservative magazine. "Gingrich has rarely, if ever, > been for smaller government. He simply believes Republicans can preside > over big government more effectively." > > “The intellectual level of debate in the Senate and the House is very low, > and it’s in that context that Gingrich comes off as more profound than he > really is,” Siegel said. “He is the tallest building in Wichita.” > > "Some years ago, I was invited to speak at a National Review conference in > the government capital. In my talk, I praised our predecessors in the Old > Right, who came together in opposition to FDR's domestic fascism and drive > to war. Afterwards, in the question period, up pops a furious Newt Gingrich > to say, at length, that conservatives must love Roosevelt -- he was > Reagan's hero, after all -- and to criticize Franklin or his policies was > to risk being written out of the conservative movement. I responded that > this is what's wrong with contemporary conservatism: its corporatism and > militarism. I never saw Newt again, and I was not invited back. > > "Newt is a neocon, i.e., a champion of the corporate state and perpetual > war, and a corrupt DC lobbyist of the worst sort. He may talk a good game, > once in a while, with Obama in power, but it is all just a partisan trick." > -- LHR, Jr. > > > > At 08:30 PM 7/14/2016, you wrote: > > Kevin Gutzman's facts are completely wrong and off base. I've read > several of Gingrich's books, and his praise for FDR is somewhat truthful, > but so is his criticisms.....Gingrich would have been all of 20 years of > age during the Goldwater run for the Presidency; so I don't necessarily > think he could be faulted for supporting Rockefeller; especially today when > Gingrich uses the "Rockefellerian/North-East Corridor/Blue-Bloods" > synonymously with the "Pseudo-Intellectual Georgetown Bar Crowd"; and > neither term is flattering or endearing. > > Gingrich is a Tea Party conservative, has been and still continues to be a > "Washington Outsider". Gingrich has supported the flat tax; and was a > Reagan conservative. > > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 8:08 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < > [email protected]> wrote: But yeah, he's done a good job on > the fiscal matters. I just wish he'd keep his religion a bit more to > himself. > He has described himself as a “ pretty ordinary Christian > <http://www.indianapolismonthly.com/news-opinion/incoming-mike-pence/>†> and as “a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order > <http://www.ibj.com/articles/59383-pences-unflappability-could-help-trump-stay-cool>.†> > > But he also once said, “I made a commitment to Christ. I’m a > born-again, evangelical Catholic.† That’s not a combination you hear > every day, as journalist Craig Fehrman, who has covered the Indiana > governor for Indiana Monthly, has pointed out > <https://craigfehrman.com/2013/01/09/mike-pences-religion/>. > > Here are five faith facts about Pence and how his unusual faith mix has > shaped him as a politician. > > > http://religionnews.com/2016/07/14/5-faith-facts-on-mike-pence-a-born-again-evangelical-catholic/ > > I never heard that term - evangelical Catholic; have you? But I agreed > with him on fighting against getting more refugees here. The ones we were > forced to take from Burma have resulted in skyrocketing rates of TB. :( > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:30:48 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote: I had to > call family in Indiana to find out a what they thought of Pence. My brother > in law said he was pretty conservative fiscally...but he also said he > wasn't a social conservative...and I'm hearing differently. What do you > think of him Perp? > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:56:18 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote: > > The deadline for Pence to withdraw from the governor's race is tomorrow > (the Star is saying he already has). Then, a committee of 22 republicans > have 30 days to name his replacement on the ballot for November. That means > whoever does get the nod then has 2.5 months to campaign before the vote in > November. > Second, the three people being mentioned for Pence's replacement are US > Representative Susan Brooks, US Representative Todd Rokita (both of whom > have made preparations to remove themselves from ballots and run for > governor instead) and the current Lt. Governor Eric Holcomb - who was named > as a replacement in March of this year when the previous Lt. Governor > resigned. > So that throws 2 of the House races here into disarray and in need of > replacement candidates too. > To top it off, former democrat representative Baron HIll, who was set to > run for our US Senate seat vacated by republican Dan Coats, has withdrawn > his bid and former governor and US Senator Evan Bayh will be running > against republican Todd Young, who is currently serving his second term as > a US representative - thus leaving yet another congressional district with > no incumbent. > I've never seen such upheaval at one time in my life! This state is going > to be as fun to watch as the national elections for once. > For the record, I'd like to see Susan Brooks win the governorship and Todd > Young in the Senate. I voted for democrat Evan Bayh twice as governor and > twice as senator - as he used to be a very moderate/conservative democrat, > but then in his second term veered far left right alongside Hillary during > the 2008 presidential campaign (he was widely touted as a potential running > mate for her when everyone thought she would win the nomination). Bayh and > Clinton were among the 2 dozen leftwing democrats to oppose the nominations > of two highly qualified SC justices (Roberts and Alito) and then turn > around and vote to appoint the least qualified and most radical one ever > nominated - Sonia Sotomayor. > Should be interesting. Bayh has the huge advantage (having been governor), > but it will depend on how many recall that he sadly became such a partisan > hack before leaving the Senate to become a lobbyist. > > -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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