http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_43/b3905109_mz063.htm

The story begins unambiguously. A group of IBMers, working on a secret
project to build a personal computer, flew to Seattle in August, 1980,
to see if Gates could supply them with an operating system. He
couldn't -- and referred them to Kildall. When they showed up at DRI's
offices the next day, Kildall's then-wife, Dorothy McEwen, the
company's business manager, refused to sign their nondisclosure
agreement. She is now ill with brain cancer and can't remember the
events, according to daughter Kristin Kildall. But Rolander, who flew
with Kildall on a business trip that morning, tells BusinessWeek they
returned in the afternoon and Kildall did meet with IBM.

If Kildall struck a handshake deal that day, it didn't stick. Sams
says he did get together with Kildall in Pacific Grove a short time
later, but they couldn't reach an agreement. At around the same time,
he saw Gates again. He and Gates both knew of the operating system
Paterson had built at Seattle Computer Co. As Sams recounts, "Gates
said: 'Do you want to get [QDOS], or do you want me to?' I said: 'By
all means, you get it."' Gates bought Paterson's program, called QDOS,
for $50,000, renamed it DOS, improved it, and licensed it to IBM for a
low per-copy royalty fee.



On Nov 12, 12:29 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There was a film on PBS several years ago that traced the history of
> Gates- the title may have been "Revenge of the Nerds" or "Geeks"- I
> forget. It covered the C64,IBM and Xerox plus others and how Gates
> wound up with the operating system for the pc. It was a combination of
> tactics and timing that was superior to Texas Instruments and some
> other early computers that failed in the market. In the meantime, the
> consumer was enchanted and began the heroic quest through electronic
> gadgets- casting models aside as soon as they felt dated/defeated.
> Each update was a magical charm.//The innards are toxic and "60
> Minutes" had a recent expose on the e-trash of southern China that
> looks like a circle of Dante's "Hell".
>
> On Nov 11, 9:33 pm, Doc Holliday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Are you saying that intellectuals have no better crystal balls than us
> > folks? Or maybe there is a power greater than themselves that change
> > the course of their expectations. Intellectuals ain't the only
> > powerful lobby in town, there are such things as greed and power
> > mongers to contend with and or which intellectual holds the fleece?
> > Which intellectual side of the street you come from might have a
> > bearing who's ineffectual and who ain't. Sitting around knowing stuff
> > doesn't make you genius or even smart; it's the application of
> > knowledge that's the proof in the pudding. Do you think that Bill
> > Gates would have made it where he has if the powers that be didn't
> > want him to be and or maybe Bill Gates was CHOSEN to carry out orders.
> > Whose idea was it to build PC products the way they are; really?
> > Remember Virginia..............................and the eye in the
> > sky.....................What's a few billion to give away when you
> > have many more billions and any and all at your disposal? Is money the
> > highest order and or commodity when you're at the top?
>
> > Peace,
> > Doc
>
> > On Nov 11, 5:20 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > From: Travis
> > > Subject: "Intellectuals"
>
> > > Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008,
>
> > > *"Intellectuals"
> > > *Thomas Sowell
> > > Tuesday, November 11, 2008
>
> > > Among the many wonders to be expected from an Obama administration, if
> > > Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times is to be believed, is ending 
> > > "the
> > > anti-intellectualis m that has long been a strain in American life."
>
> > > He cited Adlai Stevenson, the suave and debonair governor of Illinois, who
> > > twice ran for president against Eisenhower in the 1950s, as an example of 
> > > an
> > > intellectual in politics.
>
> > > Intellectuals, according to Mr. Kristof, are people who are "interested in
> > > ideas and comfortable with complexity," people who "read the classics."
>
> > > It is hard to know whether to laugh or cry.
>
> > > Adlai Stevenson was certainly regarded as an intellectual by intellectuals
> > > in the 1950s. But, half a century later, facts paint a very different
> > > picture.
>
> > > Historian Michael Beschloss, among others, has noted that Stevenson "could
> > > go quite happily for months or years without picking up a book." But
> > > Stevenson had the airs of an intellectual -- the form, rather than the
> > > substance.
>
> > > What is more telling, form was enough to impress the intellectuals, not 
> > > only
> > > then but even now, years after the facts have been revealed, though
> > > apparently not to Mr. Kristof.
>
> > > That is one of many reasons why intellectuals are not taken as seriously 
> > > by
> > > others as they take themselves.
>
> > > As for reading the classics, President Harry Truman, whom no one thought 
> > > of
> > > as an intellectual, was a voracious reader of heavyweight stuff like
> > > Thucydides and read Cicero in the original Latin. When Chief Justice Carl
> > > Vinson quoted in Latin, Truman was able to correct him.
>
> > > Yet intellectuals tended to think of the unpretentious and plain-spoken
> > > Truman as little more than a country bumpkin.
>
> > > Similarly, no one ever thought of President Calvin Coolidge as an
> > > intellectual. Yet Coolidge also read the classics in the White House. He
> > > read both Latin and Greek, and read Dante in the original Italian, since 
> > > he
> > > spoke several languages. It was said that the taciturn Coolidge could be
> > > silent in five different languages.
>
> > > The intellectual levels of politicians are just one of the many things 
> > > that
> > > intellectuals have grossly misjudged for years on end.
>
> > > During the 1930s, some of the leading intellectuals in America condemned 
> > > our
> > > economic system and pointed to the centrally planned Soviet economy as a
> > > model-- all this at a time when literally millions of people were starving
> > > to death in the Soviet Union, from a famine in a country with some of the
> > > richest farmland in Europe and historically a large exporter of food.
>
> > > New York Times Moscow correspondent Walter Duranty won a Pulitzer Prize 
> > > for
> > > telling the intelligentsia what they wanted to hear-- that claims of
> > > starvation in the Ukraine were false.
>
> > > After British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge reported from the Ukraine on 
> > > the
> > > massive deaths from starvation there, he was ostracized after returning to
> > > England and unable to find a job.
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> > > More than half a century later, when the archives of the Soviet Union were
> > > finally opened up under Mikhail Gorbachev, it turned out that about six
> > > million people had died in that famine-- about the same number as the 
> > > people
> > > killed in Hitler's Holocaust.
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> > > In the 1930s, it was the intellectuals who pooh-poohed the dangers from 
> > > the
> > > rise of Hitler and urged Western disarmament.
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> > > It would be no feat to fill a big book with all the things on which
> > > intellectuals were grossly mistaken, just in the 20th century-- far more 
> > > so
> > > than ordinary people.
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> > > History fully vindicates the late William F. Buckley's view that he would
> > > rather be ruled by people represented by the first 100 names in the Boston
> > > phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.
>
> > > How have intellectuals managed to be so wrong, so often? By thinking that
> > > because they are knowledgeable- - or even expert-- within some narrow band
> > > out of the vast spectrum of human concerns, that makes them wise guides to
> > > the masses and to the rulers of the nation.
>
> > > But the ignorance of Ph.D.s is still ignorance and high-IQ groupthink is
> > > still groupthink, which is the antithesis of real thinking.
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