In 1971 they were still doing mostly punch card programming... Reader feedback would not come along for Decades.
On Nov 12, 1:30 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A more sinister development is reader feedback and comments, I think, > after browsing some after Camille Paglia's recent article in Salon. > Who knew? > > On Nov 12, 3:15 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >http://www.pbs.org/nerds/timeline/micro.html > > > Bill Gates and Paul Allen form Traf-O-Data in 1971 to sell their > > computer traffic-analysis systems. > > > =========================== > > > Those little boxes with the pressure tubes that count cars... > > > That was their first development. > > > On Nov 12, 1:12 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Tell me. :-) > > > > On Nov 12, 3:09 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I actually know that story very well thanks... > > > > > I worked for Paul Allen for several years at Asymetrix Corporation. > > > > > Do you know what the first thing Gates and Allen developed in the > > > > Business they started? > > > > > On Nov 12, 12:29 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > There was a film on PBS several years ago that traced the history of > > > > > Gates- the title may have been "Revenge of the Nerds" or "Geeks"- I > > > > > forget. It covered the C64,IBM and Xerox plus others and how Gates > > > > > wound up with the operating system for the pc. It was a combination of > > > > > tactics and timing that was superior to Texas Instruments and some > > > > > other early computers that failed in the market. In the meantime, the > > > > > consumer was enchanted and began the heroic quest through electronic > > > > > gadgets- casting models aside as soon as they felt dated/defeated. > > > > > Each update was a magical charm.//The innards are toxic and "60 > > > > > Minutes" had a recent expose on the e-trash of southern China that > > > > > looks like a circle of Dante's "Hell". > > > > > > On Nov 11, 9:33 pm, Doc Holliday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Are you saying that intellectuals have no better crystal balls than > > > > > > us > > > > > > folks? Or maybe there is a power greater than themselves that change > > > > > > the course of their expectations. Intellectuals ain't the only > > > > > > powerful lobby in town, there are such things as greed and power > > > > > > mongers to contend with and or which intellectual holds the fleece? > > > > > > Which intellectual side of the street you come from might have a > > > > > > bearing who's ineffectual and who ain't. Sitting around knowing > > > > > > stuff > > > > > > doesn't make you genius or even smart; it's the application of > > > > > > knowledge that's the proof in the pudding. Do you think that Bill > > > > > > Gates would have made it where he has if the powers that be didn't > > > > > > want him to be and or maybe Bill Gates was CHOSEN to carry out > > > > > > orders. > > > > > > Whose idea was it to build PC products the way they are; really? > > > > > > Remember Virginia..............................and the eye in the > > > > > > sky.....................What's a few billion to give away when you > > > > > > have many more billions and any and all at your disposal? Is money > > > > > > the > > > > > > highest order and or commodity when you're at the top? > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > Doc > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 5:20 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > From: Travis > > > > > > > Subject: "Intellectuals" > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, > > > > > > > > *"Intellectuals" > > > > > > > *Thomas Sowell > > > > > > > Tuesday, November 11, 2008 > > > > > > > > Among the many wonders to be expected from an Obama > > > > > > > administration, if > > > > > > > Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times is to be believed, is > > > > > > > ending "the > > > > > > > anti-intellectualis m that has long been a strain in American > > > > > > > life." > > > > > > > > He cited Adlai Stevenson, the suave and debonair governor of > > > > > > > Illinois, who > > > > > > > twice ran for president against Eisenhower in the 1950s, as an > > > > > > > example of an > > > > > > > intellectual in politics. > > > > > > > > Intellectuals, according to Mr. Kristof, are people who are > > > > > > > "interested in > > > > > > > ideas and comfortable with complexity," people who "read the > > > > > > > classics." > > > > > > > > It is hard to know whether to laugh or cry. > > > > > > > > Adlai Stevenson was certainly regarded as an intellectual by > > > > > > > intellectuals > > > > > > > in the 1950s. But, half a century later, facts paint a very > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > picture. > > > > > > > > Historian Michael Beschloss, among others, has noted that > > > > > > > Stevenson "could > > > > > > > go quite happily for months or years without picking up a book." > > > > > > > But > > > > > > > Stevenson had the airs of an intellectual -- the form, rather > > > > > > > than the > > > > > > > substance. > > > > > > > > What is more telling, form was enough to impress the > > > > > > > intellectuals, not only > > > > > > > then but even now, years after the facts have been revealed, > > > > > > > though > > > > > > > apparently not to Mr. Kristof. > > > > > > > > That is one of many reasons why intellectuals are not taken as > > > > > > > seriously by > > > > > > > others as they take themselves. > > > > > > > > As for reading the classics, President Harry Truman, whom no one > > > > > > > thought of > > > > > > > as an intellectual, was a voracious reader of heavyweight stuff > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > Thucydides and read Cicero in the original Latin. When Chief > > > > > > > Justice Carl > > > > > > > Vinson quoted in Latin, Truman was able to correct him. > > > > > > > > Yet intellectuals tended to think of the unpretentious and > > > > > > > plain-spoken > > > > > > > Truman as little more than a country bumpkin. > > > > > > > > Similarly, no one ever thought of President Calvin Coolidge as an > > > > > > > intellectual. Yet Coolidge also read the classics in the White > > > > > > > House. He > > > > > > > read both Latin and Greek, and read Dante in the original > > > > > > > Italian, since he > > > > > > > spoke several languages. It was said that the taciturn Coolidge > > > > > > > could be > > > > > > > silent in five different languages. > > > > > > > > The intellectual levels of politicians are just one of the many > > > > > > > things that > > > > > > > intellectuals have grossly misjudged for years on end. > > > > > > > > During the 1930s, some of the leading intellectuals in America > > > > > > > condemned our > > > > > > > economic system and pointed to the centrally planned Soviet > > > > > > > economy as a > > > > > > > model-- all this at a time when literally millions of people were > > > > > > > starving > > > > > > > to death in the Soviet Union, from a famine in a country with > > > > > > > some of the > > > > > > > richest farmland in Europe and historically a large exporter of > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > New York Times Moscow correspondent Walter Duranty won a Pulitzer > > > > > > > Prize for > > > > > > > telling the intelligentsia what they wanted to hear-- that claims > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > starvation in the Ukraine were false. > > > > > > > > After British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge reported from the > > > > > > > Ukraine on the > > > > > > > massive deaths from starvation there, he was ostracized after > > > > > > > returning to > > > > > > > England and unable to find a job. > > > > > > > > More than half a century later, when the archives of the Soviet > > > > > > > Union were > > > > > > > finally opened up under Mikhail Gorbachev, it turned out that > > > > > > > about six > > > > > > > million people had died in that famine-- about the same number as > > > > > > > the people > > > > > > > killed in Hitler's Holocaust. > > > > > > > > In the 1930s, it was the intellectuals who pooh-poohed the > > > > > > > dangers from the > > > > > > > rise of Hitler and urged Western disarmament. > > > > > > > > It would be no feat to fill a big book with all the things on > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > intellectuals were grossly mistaken, just in the 20th century-- > > > > > > > far more so > > > > > > > than ordinary people. > > > > > > > > History fully vindicates the late William F. Buckley's view that > > > > > > > he would > > > > > > > rather be ruled by people represented by the first 100 names in > > > > > > > the Boston > > > > > > > phone book than by the faculty of Harvard. > > > > > > > > How have intellectuals managed to be so wrong, so often? 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