I had a 128 also which died but some of the software could also be used on the C-64. I never got through Zork I or Fahrenheit 451- I kept taking the wrong turns. lol And my daughter would weep over the riddles in 'Alice in Wonderland". Seems so innocent,now. Though this was my own consumer binge, I must admit.
On Nov 12, 3:31�am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The oldest PC I still have is an Amiga... > > I play an old Bootleg Game called Mech Warrior on it. > > It is the only System it was made for. > > On Nov 12, 1:23�am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you. Then there was that shark, Jack somebody or other from > > Atari that ruined the C-64. I played bridge while doing some laundry > > the other day on the C-64. Still have a ton of software and games and > > the grandchildren like it but it is s...l...o...w. We have been re- > > programed. > > > On Nov 12, 3:13 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_43/b3905109_mz063.htm > > > > The story begins unambiguously. A group of IBMers, working on a secret > > > project to build a personal computer, flew to Seattle in August, 1980, > > > to see if Gates could supply them with an operating system. He > > > couldn't -- and referred them to Kildall. When they showed up at DRI's > > > offices the next day, Kildall's then-wife, Dorothy McEwen, the > > > company's business manager, refused to sign their nondisclosure > > > agreement. She is now ill with brain cancer and can't remember the > > > events, according to daughter Kristin Kildall. But Rolander, who flew > > > with Kildall on a business trip that morning, tells BusinessWeek they > > > returned in the afternoon and Kildall did meet with IBM. > > > > If Kildall struck a handshake deal that day, it didn't stick. Sams > > > says he did get together with Kildall in Pacific Grove a short time > > > later, but they couldn't reach an agreement. At around the same time, > > > he saw Gates again. He and Gates both knew of the operating system > > > Paterson had built at Seattle Computer Co. As Sams recounts, "Gates > > > said: 'Do you want to get [QDOS], or do you want me to?' I said: 'By > > > all means, you get it."' Gates bought Paterson's program, called QDOS, > > > for $50,000, renamed it DOS, improved it, and licensed it to IBM for a > > > low per-copy royalty fee. > > > > On Nov 12, 12:29 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > There was a film on PBS several years ago that traced the history of > > > > Gates- the title may have been "Revenge of the Nerds" or "Geeks"- I > > > > forget. It covered the C64,IBM and Xerox plus others and how Gates > > > > wound up with the operating system for the pc. It was a combination of > > > > tactics and timing that was superior to Texas Instruments and some > > > > other early computers that failed in the market. In the meantime, the > > > > consumer was enchanted and began the heroic quest through electronic > > > > gadgets- casting models aside as soon as they felt dated/defeated. > > > > Each update was a magical charm.//The innards are toxic and "60 > > > > Minutes" had a recent expose on the e-trash of southern China that > > > > looks like a circle of Dante's "Hell". > > > > > On Nov 11, 9:33 pm, Doc Holliday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Are you saying that intellectuals have no better crystal balls than us > > > > > folks? Or maybe there is a power greater than themselves that change > > > > > the course of their expectations. Intellectuals ain't the only > > > > > powerful lobby in town, there are such things as greed and power > > > > > mongers to contend with and or which intellectual holds the fleece? > > > > > Which intellectual side of the street you come from might have a > > > > > bearing who's ineffectual and who ain't. Sitting around knowing stuff > > > > > doesn't make you genius or even smart; it's the application of > > > > > knowledge that's the proof in the pudding. Do you think that Bill > > > > > Gates would have made it where he has if the powers that be didn't > > > > > want him to be and or maybe Bill Gates was CHOSEN to carry out orders. > > > > > Whose idea was it to build PC products the way they are; really? > > > > > Remember Virginia..............................and the eye in the > > > > > sky.....................What's a few billion to give away when you > > > > > have many more billions and any and all at your disposal? Is money the > > > > > highest order and or commodity when you're at the top? > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > Doc > > > > > > On Nov 11, 5:20 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > From: Travis > > > > > > Subject: "Intellectuals" > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, > > > > > > > *"Intellectuals" > > > > > > *Thomas Sowell > > > > > > Tuesday, November 11, 2008 > > > > > > > Among the many wonders to be expected from an Obama administration, > > > > > > if > > > > > > Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times is to be believed, is > > > > > > ending "the > > > > > > anti-intellectualis m that has long been a strain in American life." > > > > > > > He cited Adlai Stevenson, the suave and debonair governor of > > > > > > Illinois, who > > > > > > twice ran for president against Eisenhower in the 1950s, as an > > > > > > example of an > > > > > > intellectual in politics. > > > > > > > Intellectuals, according to Mr. Kristof, are people who are > > > > > > "interested in > > > > > > ideas and comfortable with complexity," people who "read the > > > > > > classics." > > > > > > > It is hard to know whether to laugh or cry. > > > > > > > Adlai Stevenson was certainly regarded as an intellectual by > > > > > > intellectuals > > > > > > in the 1950s. But, half a century later, facts paint a very > > > > > > different > > > > > > picture. > > > > > > > Historian Michael Beschloss, among others, has noted that Stevenson > > > > > > "could > > > > > > go quite happily for months or years without picking up a book." But > > > > > > Stevenson had the airs of an intellectual -- the form, rather than > > > > > > the > > > > > > substance. > > > > > > > What is more telling, form was enough to impress the intellectuals, > > > > > > not only > > > > > > then but even now, years after the facts have been revealed, though > > > > > > apparently not to Mr. Kristof. > > > > > > > That is one of many reasons why intellectuals are not taken as > > > > > > seriously by > > > > > > others as they take themselves. > > > > > > > As for reading the classics, President Harry Truman, whom no one > > > > > > thought of > > > > > > as an intellectual, was a voracious reader of heavyweight stuff like > > > > > > Thucydides and read Cicero in the original Latin. When Chief > > > > > > Justice Carl > > > > > > Vinson quoted in Latin, Truman was able to correct him. > > > > > > > Yet intellectuals tended to think of the unpretentious and > > > > > > plain-spoken > > > > > > Truman as little more than a country bumpkin. > > > > > > > Similarly, no one ever thought of President Calvin Coolidge as an > > > > > > intellectual. Yet Coolidge also read the classics in the White > > > > > > House. He > > > > > > read both Latin and Greek, and read Dante in the original Italian, > > > > > > since he > > > > > > spoke several languages. It was said that the taciturn Coolidge > > > > > > could be > > > > > > silent in five different languages. > > > > > > > The intellectual levels of politicians are just one of the many > > > > > > things that > > > > > > intellectuals have grossly misjudged for years on end. > > > > > > > During the 1930s, some of the leading intellectuals in America > > > > > > condemned our > > > > > > economic system and pointed to the centrally planned Soviet economy > > > > > > as a > > > > > > model-- all this at a time when literally millions of people were > > > > > > starving > > > > > > to death in the Soviet Union, from a famine in a country with some > > > > > > of the > > > > > > richest farmland in Europe and historically a large exporter of > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > New York Times Moscow correspondent Walter Duranty won a Pulitzer > > > > > > Prize for > > > > > > telling the intelligentsia what they wanted to hear-- that claims of > > > > > > starvation in the Ukraine were false. > > > > > > > After British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge reported from the > > > > > > Ukraine on the > > > > > > massive deaths from starvation there, he was ostracized after > > > > > > returning to > > > > > > England and unable to find a job. > > > > > > > More than half a century later, when the archives of the Soviet > > > > > > Union were > > > > > > finally opened up under Mikhail Gorbachev, it turned out that about > > > > > > six > > > > > > million people had died in that famine-- about the same number as > > > > > > the people > > > > > > killed in Hitler's Holocaust. > > > > > > > In the 1930s, it was the intellectuals who pooh-poohed the dangers > > > > > > from the > > > > > > rise of Hitler and urged Western disarmament. > > > > > > > It would be no feat to fill a big book with all the things on which > > > > > > intellectuals were grossly mistaken, just in the 20th century-- far > > > > > > more so > > > > > > than ordinary people. > > > > > > > History fully vindicates the late William F. Buckley's view that he > > > > > > would > > > > > > rather be ruled by people represented by the first 100 names in the > > > > > > Boston > > > > > > phone book than by the faculty of Harvard. > > > > > > > How have intellectuals managed to be so wrong, so often? By > > > > > > thinking that > > > > > > because they are knowledgeable- - or even expert-- within some > > > > > > narrow band > > > > > > out of the vast spectrum of human concerns, that makes them wise > > > > > > guides to > > > > > > the masses and to the rulers of the nation. > > > > > > > But the ignorance of Ph.D.s is still ignorance and high-IQ > > > > > > groupthink is > > > > > > still groupthink, which is the antithesis of real thinking. > > > > > > >http://townhall. com/Columnists/ ThomasSowell/ 2008/11/11/ > > > > > > intellectuals<http://townhall.com/Columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/11/11/intellectuals> > > > > > > __._,_.___ Messages in this topic > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsowell/message/5373;_ylc=X3oDMTM0NW85d...> > > > > > > (1) Reply (via web post) > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsowell/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwOXRzcWM2BF9TA...>| > > > > > > Start a new topic > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsowell/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJldGJoaTQ3BF9TA...> > > > > > > Messages<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsowell/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMTlocTVuB...>| > > > > > > Files<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsowell/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNzY4anJnBF9T...>| > > > > > > Photos<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsowell/photos;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbG1yOHRoBF9...>| > > ... > > read more �- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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