Then call me old and even (gasp!) unhip.

No one, other than I, said anything about riding a moped.  Rather then
being direct and to the point I often try to make my points with humor
(hence "moped") but my point is whether the Prez is a monk, moonie or
a libbie, he should be treated (and travel) accordingly.  I think it's
a cheap shot to wag one's finger ("shame!!") at the guy because his
ride is juiced up.  Particularly when the article states:

"But Boston College political science professor Kay Schlozman said
security concerns are likely behind the vehicle's design."

But then maybe you're the nitpicking type.


On Nov 13, 8:21 am, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WHO? WHO? WHO? <owl> Said ANYTHING about him riding a moped????  It goes to
> the elitist liberals "do as I say and not as I do" tripe.  Comments for the
> sake of commenting only really get old fast.
>
> CW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kamakazee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 09:07
> Subject: Re: Barry's Pimped Out Limo
>
> Not a story, as much as I'd like to wish.
>
> He's the prez, he shouldn't ride a moped.
>
> On Nov 12, 5:38 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Barack Obama's car could fuel more problems
>
> > By Dave Wedge | Wednesday, November 12, 2008 |
> >http://www.bostonherald.com
>
> > President-elect Obama has stressed the need for energy independence - but
> > he'll be chauffeured around in a gas-guzzling Cadillac SUV limo that could
> > pose a symbolism problem similar to the car controversy that dogged his
> > friend and ally, Gov. Deval Patrick.
>
> > Obama's presidential ride, dubbed "Cadillac One," will reportedly be a
> > mammoth, custom-made Cadillac limo built like a GMC truck that sits on
> > 19 -inch wheels. The vehicle will also have 5-inch-thick bulletproof
> > windows, cell phone-jamming gear and blast-proof armor.
>
> > Presidents have been riding in Cadillacs - and some in Lincolns - for
> > decades, going all the way back to Woodrow Wilson in the early part of the
> > 20th century. But Obama's vehicle will reportedly be a much beefier
> > version than President Bush's Cadillac DeVille stretch.
>
> > U.S. News and World Report reported that the vehicle shares "the same
> > chassis and tires" as a GMC 2500 series truck, "indicating that it is far
> > heavier than a civilian Cadillac."
>
> > Obama frequently spoke during the campaign of the need to slash reliance
> > on foreign oil and pledged to put 1 million hybrid vehicles on America's
> > roads by 2015. He personally drives a Ford Escape Hybrid.
>
> > But a standard Cadillac DTS limo, which is a low-level version of Cadillac
> > One, gets just 12 miles per gallon in the city and 18 on the highway and
> > costs $47,000.
>
> > Several political and automotive blogs have pointed out the vehicle's fuel
> > inefficiency, including U.S. News and World Report, which called it "the
> > most monstrous Presidential limousine yet."
>
> > "Fuel-efficiency clearly isn't on the mind of its designers," the
> > publication wrote on its "Rankings and Reviews" Web site.
>
> > But Boston College political science professor Kay Schlozman said security
> > concerns are likely behind the vehicle's design.
>
> > "I don't know if the president can get away with driving a hybrid vehicle
> > like a Prius," Schlozman said.
>
> > Besides the gas-guzzling issue, Bay State Republicans said Obama should
> > learn a lesson from Patrick, who took heat for upgrading the state's
> > taxpayer-funded gubernatorial car from a Ford to a Cadillac during his
> > first weeks in office. Patrick later decided to personally pay part of the
> > vehicle's monthly lease.
>
> > "I think he's following a lot of Deval. They're both using the same
> > playbook on a lot of things," state Sen. Robert Hedlund (R-Weymouth) said.
>
> > Added Massachusetts GOP spokesman Barney Keller: "If President Obama is
> > going to copy Governor Patrick's words and his Cadillac, we assume next
> > he'll copy Governor Patrick's tax hikes and reckless spending proposals."
>
> > A Patrick spokesman declined comment, while Obama's spokespeople did not
> > return messages.- Hide quoted text -
>
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