I suppose I'm just obviously mundane, but brilliantly so.

And speaking of, you consider it brilliant to jap a finger in Obama's
eye because he drives a vehicle that gets 12 miles per gallon?  This
proves that he's an eltist liberal who doesn't practice what he's
preaching?

It's lost on me.

I'd rather talk about his bullshit "lockdown on the lobbysts".  And
point to the idea that he, just as Clinton did, will work the PR
aspect of being president to the fullest degree while the public
cheers and throws their greenbacks at him.  While the whole time Bush
just shrugs his shoulders, realizing so many of the truly good/noble
things he's done the last 8 years will continue to go unnoticed.

PS.  I'm old.  How much do you weigh?

On Nov 13, 8:42 am, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How old are you old man??
>
> FYI - I deal with very "dry" material on a daily basis.  I find this group
> to be a refreshing oasis in the middle of it all but not for the mundane or
> obvious (yours) comments but for the truly brilliant comments.  I normally
> do NOT pick nit (I leave that others, the "DELETE" key is always handy) but
> I think the moped suggestion was just plain...stupid...I said it.
>
> CW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kamakazee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 09:29
> Subject: Re: Barry's Pimped Out Limo
>
> Then call me old and even (gasp!) unhip.
>
> No one, other than I, said anything about riding a moped.  Rather then
> being direct and to the point I often try to make my points with humor
> (hence "moped") but my point is whether the Prez is a monk, moonie or
> a libbie, he should be treated (and travel) accordingly.  I think it's
> a cheap shot to wag one's finger ("shame!!") at the guy because his
> ride is juiced up.  Particularly when the article states:
>
> "But Boston College political science professor Kay Schlozman said
> security concerns are likely behind the vehicle's design."
>
> But then maybe you're the nitpicking type.
>
> On Nov 13, 8:21 am, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > WHO? WHO? WHO? <owl> Said ANYTHING about him riding a moped???? It goes to
> > the elitist liberals "do as I say and not as I do" tripe. Comments for the
> > sake of commenting only really get old fast.
>
> > CW
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kamakazee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 09:07
> > Subject: Re: Barry's Pimped Out Limo
>
> > Not a story, as much as I'd like to wish.
>
> > He's the prez, he shouldn't ride a moped.
>
> > On Nov 12, 5:38 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Barack Obama's car could fuel more problems
>
> > > By Dave Wedge | Wednesday, November 12, 2008 |
> > >http://www.bostonherald.com
>
> > > President-elect Obama has stressed the need for energy independence -
> > > but
> > > he'll be chauffeured around in a gas-guzzling Cadillac SUV limo that
> > > could
> > > pose a symbolism problem similar to the car controversy that dogged his
> > > friend and ally, Gov. Deval Patrick.
>
> > > Obama's presidential ride, dubbed "Cadillac One," will reportedly be a
> > > mammoth, custom-made Cadillac limo built like a GMC truck that sits on
> > > 19 -inch wheels. The vehicle will also have 5-inch-thick bulletproof
> > > windows, cell phone-jamming gear and blast-proof armor.
>
> > > Presidents have been riding in Cadillacs - and some in Lincolns - for
> > > decades, going all the way back to Woodrow Wilson in the early part of
> > > the
> > > 20th century. But Obama's vehicle will reportedly be a much beefier
> > > version than President Bush's Cadillac DeVille stretch.
>
> > > U.S. News and World Report reported that the vehicle shares "the same
> > > chassis and tires" as a GMC 2500 series truck, "indicating that it is
> > > far
> > > heavier than a civilian Cadillac."
>
> > > Obama frequently spoke during the campaign of the need to slash reliance
> > > on foreign oil and pledged to put 1 million hybrid vehicles on America's
> > > roads by 2015. He personally drives a Ford Escape Hybrid.
>
> > > But a standard Cadillac DTS limo, which is a low-level version of
> > > Cadillac
> > > One, gets just 12 miles per gallon in the city and 18 on the highway and
> > > costs $47,000.
>
> > > Several political and automotive blogs have pointed out the vehicle's
> > > fuel
> > > inefficiency, including U.S. News and World Report, which called it "the
> > > most monstrous Presidential limousine yet."
>
> > > "Fuel-efficiency clearly isn't on the mind of its designers," the
> > > publication wrote on its "Rankings and Reviews" Web site.
>
> > > But Boston College political science professor Kay Schlozman said
> > > security
> > > concerns are likely behind the vehicle's design.
>
> > > "I don't know if the president can get away with driving a hybrid
> > > vehicle
> > > like a Prius," Schlozman said.
>
> > > Besides the gas-guzzling issue, Bay State Republicans said Obama should
> > > learn a lesson from Patrick, who took heat for upgrading the state's
> > > taxpayer-funded gubernatorial car from a Ford to a Cadillac during his
> > > first weeks in office. Patrick later decided to personally pay part of
> > > the
> > > vehicle's monthly lease.
>
> > > "I think he's following a lot of Deval. They're both using the same
> > > playbook on a lot of things," state Sen. Robert Hedlund (R-Weymouth)
> > > said.
>
> > > Added Massachusetts GOP spokesman Barney Keller: "If President Obama is
> > > going to copy Governor Patrick's words and his Cadillac, we assume next
> > > he'll copy Governor Patrick's tax hikes and reckless spending
> > > proposals."
>
> > > A Patrick spokesman declined comment, while Obama's spokespeople did not
> > > return messages.- Hide quoted text -
>
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