This coming from someone who thinks discussing the color of the First
Lady Elects Dress is what, brilliant?!?!?!?!?!?

During the middle of an Economic meltdown...

Imagine that.


On Nov 13, 6:42 am, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How old are you old man??
>
> FYI - I deal with very "dry" material on a daily basis.  I find this group
> to be a refreshing oasis in the middle of it all but not for the mundane or
> obvious (yours) comments but for the truly brilliant comments.  I normally
> do NOT pick nit (I leave that others, the "DELETE" key is always handy) but
> I think the moped suggestion was just plain...stupid...I said it.
>
> CW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kamakazee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 09:29
> Subject: Re: Barry's Pimped Out Limo
>
> Then call me old and even (gasp!) unhip.
>
> No one, other than I, said anything about riding a moped.  Rather then
> being direct and to the point I often try to make my points with humor
> (hence "moped") but my point is whether the Prez is a monk, moonie or
> a libbie, he should be treated (and travel) accordingly.  I think it's
> a cheap shot to wag one's finger ("shame!!") at the guy because his
> ride is juiced up.  Particularly when the article states:
>
> "But Boston College political science professor Kay Schlozman said
> security concerns are likely behind the vehicle's design."
>
> But then maybe you're the nitpicking type.
>
> On Nov 13, 8:21 am, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > WHO? WHO? WHO? <owl> Said ANYTHING about him riding a moped???? It goes to
> > the elitist liberals "do as I say and not as I do" tripe. Comments for the
> > sake of commenting only really get old fast.
>
> > CW
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kamakazee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 09:07
> > Subject: Re: Barry's Pimped Out Limo
>
> > Not a story, as much as I'd like to wish.
>
> > He's the prez, he shouldn't ride a moped.
>
> > On Nov 12, 5:38 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Barack Obama's car could fuel more problems
>
> > > By Dave Wedge | Wednesday, November 12, 2008 |
> > >http://www.bostonherald.com
>
> > > President-elect Obama has stressed the need for energy independence -
> > > but
> > > he'll be chauffeured around in a gas-guzzling Cadillac SUV limo that
> > > could
> > > pose a symbolism problem similar to the car controversy that dogged his
> > > friend and ally, Gov. Deval Patrick.
>
> > > Obama's presidential ride, dubbed "Cadillac One," will reportedly be a
> > > mammoth, custom-made Cadillac limo built like a GMC truck that sits on
> > > 19 -inch wheels. The vehicle will also have 5-inch-thick bulletproof
> > > windows, cell phone-jamming gear and blast-proof armor.
>
> > > Presidents have been riding in Cadillacs - and some in Lincolns - for
> > > decades, going all the way back to Woodrow Wilson in the early part of
> > > the
> > > 20th century. But Obama's vehicle will reportedly be a much beefier
> > > version than President Bush's Cadillac DeVille stretch.
>
> > > U.S. News and World Report reported that the vehicle shares "the same
> > > chassis and tires" as a GMC 2500 series truck, "indicating that it is
> > > far
> > > heavier than a civilian Cadillac."
>
> > > Obama frequently spoke during the campaign of the need to slash reliance
> > > on foreign oil and pledged to put 1 million hybrid vehicles on America's
> > > roads by 2015. He personally drives a Ford Escape Hybrid.
>
> > > But a standard Cadillac DTS limo, which is a low-level version of
> > > Cadillac
> > > One, gets just 12 miles per gallon in the city and 18 on the highway and
> > > costs $47,000.
>
> > > Several political and automotive blogs have pointed out the vehicle's
> > > fuel
> > > inefficiency, including U.S. News and World Report, which called it "the
> > > most monstrous Presidential limousine yet."
>
> > > "Fuel-efficiency clearly isn't on the mind of its designers," the
> > > publication wrote on its "Rankings and Reviews" Web site.
>
> > > But Boston College political science professor Kay Schlozman said
> > > security
> > > concerns are likely behind the vehicle's design.
>
> > > "I don't know if the president can get away with driving a hybrid
> > > vehicle
> > > like a Prius," Schlozman said.
>
> > > Besides the gas-guzzling issue, Bay State Republicans said Obama should
> > > learn a lesson from Patrick, who took heat for upgrading the state's
> > > taxpayer-funded gubernatorial car from a Ford to a Cadillac during his
> > > first weeks in office. Patrick later decided to personally pay part of
> > > the
> > > vehicle's monthly lease.
>
> > > "I think he's following a lot of Deval. They're both using the same
> > > playbook on a lot of things," state Sen. Robert Hedlund (R-Weymouth)
> > > said.
>
> > > Added Massachusetts GOP spokesman Barney Keller: "If President Obama is
> > > going to copy Governor Patrick's words and his Cadillac, we assume next
> > > he'll copy Governor Patrick's tax hikes and reckless spending
> > > proposals."
>
> > > A Patrick spokesman declined comment, while Obama's spokespeople did not
> > > return messages.- Hide quoted text -
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