Zeb,

Why don't you try to get back to showing me where I defended so-called
honor-killings and/or Sharia Law? That's what has be pissed off.
Neither one of us are lawyers, at least I previously pointed out I was
certainly not one.
BTW, just so long as you keep a civil tone with me I will recipocate.

On Nov 16, 12:00 am, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not to put too fine a point on it, but the crime is intensified by
> things like pre-meditation and now, thanks to libs, motive. The law
> has always considered a crime of passion or of the moment less serious
> than one pre-meditated. Now it considers the reason for the crime as
> dispositive. The sentencing portion and the crime charged are
> interlinked. I'm not even sure why you're arguing against this.
>
> On Nov 16, 12:45 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Zeb,
>
> > Motive CAN be relevant in the sentancing portion of the trial, but not
> > to the charge itself.
>
> > On Nov 15, 11:30 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Although you say you're not a fucking moron, everything you say belies
> > > that. I pointed out to you that motive is, indeed, relevant in
> > > criminal cases, as opposed to your assertion that it doesn't mean
> > > "fucking shit" and you hysterically try re-define your perspective. It
> > > seems that you know as little about law as you know about just about
> > > everything else. I say "just about" because I'm sure your knowledge of
> > > child porn is unsurpassed.
>
> > > On Nov 16, 12:15 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > I'm not a lawyer, I'm just not a fucking moron.
>
> > > > Premeditation is the fact that a crime was a result of "cool and/or
> > > > calm reflection and not done in a moment of uncontroled passion".  The
> > > > REASON for the premeditated 1st degree murder MIGHT save you from the
> > > > death penality and get you life with no chance for parole, but it's
> > > > unlikey as all hell to save you from the CHARGE of 1st degree murder.
> > > > What is it with you lads? Still all pissy about "hate crimes"
> > > > legislation or that people can be charged with "violation of one's
> > > > civil rights" under Federal statutes that supercede state laws?
> > > > So far as this pig that murdered his two daughters I am perfectly
> > > > happy to see him executed for multiple counts of 1st degree murder.
> > > > Fucking idiot.
>
> > > > On Nov 15, 10:45 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >The REASON one "premeditated" the fucking murder does not mean
>
> > > > > fucking shit.
>
> > > > > Oh really? What if the reason some guy planned to kill his victim was
> > > > > because he was a "fuckin nigger?" A nigger who dared to date white
> > > > > women. Does THAT make a difference, Mr. Lawyer? It is you irrational
> > > > > liberals that legislated someone's motive for a crime as relevant.
> > > > > Try to keep up.
>
> > > > > On Nov 15, 11:29 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > d.b.
>
> > > > > > Dude, you are a complete and utter fucking moron.
> > > > > > I'm DEFENDING an action by calling in first degree murder????
>
> > > > > > How do you plan ANY fucking murder? Do you know what premeditation
> > > > > > means? The REASON one "premeditated" the fucking murder does not 
> > > > > > mean
> > > > > > fucking shit. It's the ACT itself of premeditation that qualifies 
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > for the charge of Murder One you idiot.
>
> > > > > > Sharia lawyer? What the fuck are you talking about? I just looked 
> > > > > > thru
> > > > > > my phone book, didn't see a one listed. Piss off fool.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 15, 9:51 pm, "d.b.baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Nov 15, 5:58 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > ... it was planned and pre-meditated, that makes it
> > > > > > > > murder 1.
>
> > > > > > > Exhibit A2: The dead girls' aunt," Everyone knows this is an 
> > > > > > > honour
> > > > > > > killing," [except Jimmy Rocket].
>
> > > > > > > If the murders were NOT honor killings, how were they "planned and
> > > > > > > premeditated"?
>
> > > > > > > Sharia lawyer: "Judge, my client has admitted guilt, he lost his 
> > > > > > > mind
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