we are talking about free speech for all and the fairness doctrine enforces that on our public airwaves .
On Nov 18, 4:56 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes i would be ! there has to be equal access to both sides of the > issues . > the American people have a right to know the truth about what our > government is doing no mater who is in the white house . > ============================================ > That's for the news....not opinion-based talk radio. Two separate > issues. You're talking about giving free access to opposing "views" on > talk radio.....not the truth about what is going on. > > Furthermore, we're not talking about who is in the White House, we're > talking about why a radio station has to give free time to someone who > doesn't want to have to pay for it. If you truly supported free > speech, as you claim, then talk radio should just stand on a corner > and give the mic to whoever walks by. Sorry. Not a valid argument. > > On Nov 18, 4:30 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > yes i would be ! there has to be equal access to both sides of the > > issues . > > the American people have a right to know the truth about what our > > government is doing no mater who is in the white house . > > On Nov 18, 4:19 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Put up or shut up, Mike. > > > > Let me phrase it another way.......and answer me honestly, if you can > > > > If liberal talk shows ruled the air, would you be pushing for > > > conservatives to have free access to equal time on their programs? > > > > Answer me honestly, mike.....would we even be having this discussion? > > > > On Nov 18, 4:14 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > so you support free speech only for those who can pay for it ? > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:09 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Anyone who wants to air a program can do so. Period. Put up the cash, > > > > > and air your program to your heart's delight. Right, left, it doesn't > > > > > matter. As such, free speech does prevail. > > > > > > You cannot cite me one instance of a station denying access based on > > > > > anything other than unwillingness on the part of the programmer to pay > > > > > the price. > > > > > > Again, had AirAmerica been successful, we wouldn't be having this > > > > > discussion. They were poorly managed, and even more poorly marketed. > > > > > End of story. You lose. Again. > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:06 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > [ The entire premise of this thread is false. ] > > > > > > you are against free speech for all ? > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:01 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > All talk shows are supposed to be fair and evenhanded? According > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > who? You? > > > > > > > > Ever listen to NPR? Their gardening shows cater to people who > > > > > > > like to > > > > > > > garden. Their news shows are for people who like news. Their > > > > > > > call-in > > > > > > > shows like Car Talk and Kim Commando cater to car lovers and > > > > > > > software/ > > > > > > > computer geeks. Should they be forced to field calls about > > > > > > > plumbing? > > > > > > > Talk radio caters to a particular crowd. When AirAmerica was on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > air, they sure as hell didn't give fair time to > > > > > > > conservatives....did > > > > > > > they? > > > > > > > > The entire premise of this thread is false. > > > > > > > > You really need to let this topic go. You argue from a dishonest > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > of view. As such, any further threads initiated by you will drip > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > your usual bullshit. > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 4:35 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Former News Radio Staffer Spills the Beans on How Shock Jocks > > > > > > > > Inspire > > > > > > > > Hatred and Angerhttp://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/107326/ > > > > > > > > I first got into journalism because I thought I could make a > > > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > > > > I wrote for the school newspaper and did “news” reports on a > > > > > > > > radio > > > > > > > > station a friend and I started at my high school in > > > > > > > > Springfield, Mo. I > > > > > > > > got my first professional job at age 20, while still in > > > > > > > > college, at a > > > > > > > > local radio station’s news department. Three years later, I > > > > > > > > became a > > > > > > > > news director, and 12 years after that, in 1995, I was > > > > > > > > recruited to > > > > > > > > move to Milwaukee to become news director at WTMJ, one of the > > > > > > > > largest > > > > > > > > and most successful news/talk radio stations in America. > > > > > > > > > That was where my real education occurred. > > > > > > > > > I worked for three years as news director, and then, in 1998, > > > > > > > > gained > > > > > > > > the additional title of assistant program director, a role I > > > > > > > > held > > > > > > > > until leaving the station in July 2006. From that position, I > > > > > > > > worked > > > > > > > > closely with our talk show hosts and became intimately familiar > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > how they appeal to listeners and shape their vision of the > > > > > > > > world. Let > > > > > > > > me tell you some of the lessons I learned. > > > > > > > > > To begin with, talk show hosts such as Charlie Sykes – one of > > > > > > > > the best > > > > > > > > in the business – are popular and powerful because they appeal > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > segment of the population that feels disenfranchised and even > > > > > > > > victimized by the media. These people believe the media are > > > > > > > > predominantly staffed by and consistently reflect the views of > > > > > > > > social > > > > > > > > liberals. This view is by now so long-held and deep-rooted, it > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > evolved into part of virtually every conservative’s DNA. > > > > > > > > > To succeed, a talk show host must perpetuate the notion that > > > > > > > > his or > > > > > > > > her listeners are victims, and the host is the vehicle by which > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > can become empowered. The host frames virtually every issue in > > > > > > > > us- > > > > > > > > versus-them terms. There has to be a bad guy against whom the > > > > > > > > host > > > > > > > > will emphatically defend those loyal listeners. > > > > > > > > > This enemy can be a politician – either a Democratic > > > > > > > > officeholder or, > > > > > > > > in rare cases where no Democrat is convenient to blame, it can > > > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > “RINO” (a “Republican In Name Only,” who is deemed not > > > > > > > > conservative > > > > > > > > enough). It can be the cold, cruel government bureaucracy. More > > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > than not, however, the enemy is the “mainstream media” – local > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > national, print or broadcast. > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, it can even be their own station’s news director. > > > > > > > > One year, > > > > > > > > Charlie targeted me because I had instructed my midday news > > > > > > > > anchor to > > > > > > > > report the Wimbledon tennis results, even though the matches > > > > > > > > wouldn’t > > > > > > > > be telecast until much later in the day. Charlie gave out my > > > > > > > > phone > > > > > > > > number and e-mail address on the air. I was flooded with hate > > > > > > > > mail, > > > > > > > > nasty messages, and even one death threat from a federal law > > > > > > > > enforcement agent whom I knew to be a big Charlie fan. > > > > > > > > > In the talk radio business, this concept, which must be > > > > > > > > mastered to be > > > > > > > > successful, is called “differentiating” yourself from the rest > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > media. It is a brilliant marketing tactic that has also helped > > > > > > > > Fox > > > > > > > > News Channel thrive. “We report, you decide” and “Fair and > > > > > > > > Balanced” > > > > > > > > are more than just savvy slogans. They are code words signaling > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > only Fox will report the news in a way conservatives see as > > > > > > > > objective > > > > > > > > and truthful. > > > > > > > > > Forget any notion, however, that radio talk shows are supposed > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > fair, evenhanded discussions featuring a diversity of opinions. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > Fairness Doctrine, which required this, was repealed 20 years > > > > > > > > ago. So > > > > > > > > talk shows can be, and are, all about the host’s opinions, > > > > > > > > analyses > > > > > > > > and general worldview. Programmers learned long ago that benign > > > > > > > > conversations led by hosts who present all sides of an issue > > > > > > > > don’t > > > > > > > > attract large audiences. That’s why Kathleen Dunn was forced > > > > > > > > out at > > > > > > > > WTMJ in the early ’90s and why Jim and Andee were replaced in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > mid-’90s by Dr. Laura. Pointed and provocative are what win. > > > > > > > > > There is no way to win a disagreement with Charlie Sykes. Calls > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > listeners who disagree with him don’t get on the air if the > > > > > > > > show’s > > > > > > > > producer, who generally does the screening, fears they might > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > Charlie look bad. I witnessed several occasions when Sen. 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