[ It looks like the key difference in the article between participating sex at an older or younger age is religion. ] really tell that to caribou barbie and her daughter !
On Jan 1, 9:57 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Mikey: > > It looks like the key difference in the article between participating > sex at an older or younger age is religion. > > As the U.S. is predomintaley a "Christian" country. > > Perhaps we should make Christianity our national religion to cut down > on teen-age pregnancy. > > On Jan 1, 9:03 am, "mike [never forget] 532" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > your welcome lew ! > > > On Jan 1, 8:30 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thank you for your thoughts about Laura Bush. > > > > It reveals all there is to know about you. > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Jan 1, 8:01 am, "mike [never forget] 532" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > laura bush has no virtues other she killed her own enemies rather than > > > > get the military to do it liker husband did . > > > > now do you want to talk about how your very own study shows virginity > > > > pledges don't work ? > > > > On Jan 1, 7:47 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Mikey picks teenage sex as his first article to respond to rather than > > > > > the virtues of Laura Bush. > > > > > > Wonder why? > > > > > > On Jan 1, 7:25 am, "mike [never forget] 532" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Rosenbaum believes her study shows that “abstinence > > > > > > promotion programs” are not a wise policy for the government to > > > > > > advance. “Adolescents who take virginity pledges are not less > > > > > > sexually active than closely matched adolescents who do not take > > > > > > pledges, but they are less likely to use birth control or condoms,” > > > > > > she said. “Clinicians should provide birth control information to > > > > > > all > > > > > > adolescents, especially abstinence-only sex education participants.” > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 7:13 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > cnsnews.com > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 > > > > > > > By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer > > > > > > > > (CNSNews.com) - A study in the January issue of Pediatrics that is > > > > > > > critical of virginity pledges nonetheless reveals that teens who > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > more religious have their first sexual encounter at the average > > > > > > > age of > > > > > > > 21, or four years later than teens who are not as religious. > > > > > > > > The study, using data from the national Adolescent Health Survey, > > > > > > > examines 934 teens with strong religious backgrounds, 289 of whom > > > > > > > took > > > > > > > abstinence pledges and 645 who did not. > > > > > > > > The author of the study, Janice Rosenbaum, a post doctoral fellow > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told CNSNews.com > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > her analysis shows that among her sample of 934 teens with strong > > > > > > > religious backgrounds, both the pledgers and non-pledgers became > > > > > > > sexually active at about 21 on average. That is four years later > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > teens who are not as religious. She said religious beliefs play a > > > > > > > role in teens abstaining from sex. > > > > > > > > “One year before pledging, pledgers are more religious, less > > > > > > > sexually > > > > > > > experienced, and hold more negative attitudes about sex and birth > > > > > > > control than adolescents who do not go on to take a virginity > > > > > > > pledge,” > > > > > > > Rosenbaum writes in Pediatrics. “Religious adolescents delay > > > > > > > sexual > > > > > > > initiation, so virginity pledgers’ prepledge religiosity could > > > > > > > induce > > > > > > > abstinence without the pledge.” > > > > > > > > “It is true that this profile of teenagers, these 934 teenagers > > > > > > > that I > > > > > > > look at are more conservative in their sexual behavior,” Rosenbaum > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > Religious teens “are more restrained in the sexual choices and > > > > > > > that’s > > > > > > > because of their social context,” said Rosenbaum. “They are less > > > > > > > sexually experienced to begin with. Their friends are engaging in > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > risk behavior. Their parents also go to church and they are also > > > > > > > choosing to go to church and to stay affiliated with evangelical > > > > > > > Christianity.” > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, Rosenbaum believes her study shows that “abstinence > > > > > > > promotion programs” are not a wise policy for the government to > > > > > > > advance. “Adolescents who take virginity pledges are not less > > > > > > > sexually active than closely matched adolescents who do not take > > > > > > > pledges, but they are less likely to use birth control or > > > > > > > condoms,” > > > > > > > she said. “Clinicians should provide birth control information to > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > adolescents, especially abstinence-only sex education > > > > > > > participants.” > > > > > > > > Robert Rector, senior research fellow on domestic policy at the > > > > > > > Heritage Foundation, told CNSNews.com that he has conducted > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > studies based on the same adolescent health survey data used in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Pediatrics study and come to much different conclusions. > > > > > > > > “It was really quite extraordinary that you find in this survey > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > kids who took this very brief exposure to virginity pledges have > > > > > > > dramatically better life outcomes compared to kids from the same > > > > > > > socio- > > > > > > > economic background,” said Rector. This included “dramatically > > > > > > > lower > > > > > > > rates of teen births, abortion rates down, teen sex down, out of > > > > > > > wedlock births down, number of sexual partners down a third to a > > > > > > > half > > > > > > > compared to kids from a similar socio-economic backgrounds. That’s > > > > > > > extraordinary.” > > > > > > > > Rector argues that most abstinence education programs don’t > > > > > > > include a > > > > > > > pledge and that what the data shows is that teens who delay sex > > > > > > > because of their training and beliefs are at a distinct advantage. > > > > > > > > “It’s not an abstinence versus non-abstinence message at all,” > > > > > > > Rector > > > > > > > told CNSNews.com. “It’s very clear that these kids that have what > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > call pro-abstinence, anti-permissive sex attitudes do > > > > > > > substantially > > > > > > > better in life. They are much more likely to abstain from sex > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > high school and teens who have abstained from sex through high > > > > > > > school > > > > > > > are twice as likely to graduate from college.” > > > > > > > > But some advocates for so-called comprehensive sex education say > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > participants in abstinence only programs who have sex usually have > > > > > > > unprotected sex because of negative information about > > > > > > > contraceptives. > > > > > > > > “When (virginity) pledgers fell of the wagon, they fell of hard,” > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > Albert, chief program director for The National Campaign to > > > > > > > Prevent > > > > > > > Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, said in a U.S. News and World Report > > > > > > > story. “What have we gained if we encourage young people only to > > > > > > > delay > > > > > > > sex until they are older, but when they do become sexually active, > > > > > > > they don’t protect themselves or their partners?” > > > > > > > > “The idea that it has to be either a virginity pledge or > > > > > > > encouraging > > > > > > > teens to have sex is a false dichotomy,” Albert said. “There is a > > > > > > > public consensus in this country to encourage teens to delay sex, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > also to provide them with contraception.” > > > > > > > > Rector said his studies support the importance of continuing > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > funding of abstinence education and that Rosenbaum’s study does > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > “What she’s really lobbying for is clearly an elimination of > > > > > > > abstinence teaching,” Rector said. “And so she’s saying, when you > > > > > > > look > > > > > > > at these kids that have pro-abstinence attitudes, those > > > > > > > pro-abstinence > > > > > > > attitudes provide dramatically positive results but they are not > > > > > > > linked to the virginity pledge per se, therefore we should do away > > > > > > > with those pro-abstinence attitudes.” > > > > > > > > “Somehow these kids sort of miraculously absorb those messages and > > > > > > > values, so we should stop teaching those messages and values,” > > > > > > > Rector > > > > > > > said, “even though her data shows that all those kids that have > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > pro-abstinence attitudes do much better in life.” > > > > > > > > Rosenbaum said she thinks encouraging teens to delay sexual > > > > > > > activity > > > > > > > is a good public health policy, but that her work shows virginity > > > > > > > pledges aren’t the way to reach that goal. > > > > > > > > “This group, whether or not they are pledgers, are starting to > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > sex at around 21, which is about four years later than the average > > > > > > > American teen,” Rosenbaum told CNSNews.com. “Definitely, though, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > social context created by the evangelical context and social > > > > > > > groups > > > > > > > does seem to cause kids to delay sex. 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