lew agrees with bush that the constitution is just a damned piece of paper !
On Jan 1, 10:07 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > H, You know where i stand on virginity.... I'm DEFINITELY against it > and have started my own movement to "snake" it out. Virgins are vile > creatures that need the cure. > > As far as Lews position on Nationalizing Christianity... the > Constitution has NOTHING to do with it... Bush is still President and > he IS the "DECIDER". > > On Jan 1, 8:59 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > lew, > > > That would be unconstituional you old fool. > > > On Jan 1, 8:57 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Mikey: > > > > It looks like the key difference in the article between participating > > > sex at an older or younger age is religion. > > > > As the U.S. is predomintaley a "Christian" country. > > > > Perhaps we should make Christianity our national religion to cut down > > > on teen-age pregnancy. > > > > On Jan 1, 9:03 am, "mike [never forget] 532" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > your welcome lew ! > > > > > On Jan 1, 8:30 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you for your thoughts about Laura Bush. > > > > > > It reveals all there is to know about you. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > On Jan 1, 8:01 am, "mike [never forget] 532" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > laura bush has no virtues other she killed her own enemies rather > > > > > > than > > > > > > get the military to do it liker husband did . > > > > > > now do you want to talk about how your very own study shows > > > > > > virginity > > > > > > pledges don't work ? > > > > > > On Jan 1, 7:47 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mikey picks teenage sex as his first article to respond to rather > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > the virtues of Laura Bush. > > > > > > > > Wonder why? > > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 7:25 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rosenbaum believes her study shows that “abstinence > > > > > > > > promotion programs” are not a wise policy for the government to > > > > > > > > advance. “Adolescents who take virginity pledges are not less > > > > > > > > sexually active than closely matched adolescents who do not take > > > > > > > > pledges, but they are less likely to use birth control or > > > > > > > > condoms,” > > > > > > > > she said. “Clinicians should provide birth control information > > > > > > > > to all > > > > > > > > adolescents, especially abstinence-only sex education > > > > > > > > participants.” > > > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 7:13 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > cnsnews.com > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 > > > > > > > > > By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer > > > > > > > > > > (CNSNews.com) - A study in the January issue of Pediatrics > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > critical of virginity pledges nonetheless reveals that teens > > > > > > > > > who are > > > > > > > > > more religious have their first sexual encounter at the > > > > > > > > > average age of > > > > > > > > > 21, or four years later than teens who are not as religious. > > > > > > > > > > The study, using data from the national Adolescent Health > > > > > > > > > Survey, > > > > > > > > > examines 934 teens with strong religious backgrounds, 289 of > > > > > > > > > whom took > > > > > > > > > abstinence pledges and 645 who did not. > > > > > > > > > > The author of the study, Janice Rosenbaum, a post doctoral > > > > > > > > > fellow at > > > > > > > > > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told > > > > > > > > > CNSNews.com that > > > > > > > > > her analysis shows that among her sample of 934 teens with > > > > > > > > > strong > > > > > > > > > religious backgrounds, both the pledgers and non-pledgers > > > > > > > > > became > > > > > > > > > sexually active at about 21 on average. That is four years > > > > > > > > > later than > > > > > > > > > teens who are not as religious. She said religious beliefs > > > > > > > > > play a > > > > > > > > > role in teens abstaining from sex. > > > > > > > > > > “One year before pledging, pledgers are more religious, less > > > > > > > > > sexually > > > > > > > > > experienced, and hold more negative attitudes about sex and > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > control than adolescents who do not go on to take a virginity > > > > > > > > > pledge,” > > > > > > > > > Rosenbaum writes in Pediatrics. “Religious adolescents delay > > > > > > > > > sexual > > > > > > > > > initiation, so virginity pledgers’ prepledge religiosity > > > > > > > > > could induce > > > > > > > > > abstinence without the pledge.” > > > > > > > > > > “It is true that this profile of teenagers, these 934 > > > > > > > > > teenagers that I > > > > > > > > > look at are more conservative in their sexual behavior,” > > > > > > > > > Rosenbaum > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > Religious teens “are more restrained in the sexual choices > > > > > > > > > and that’s > > > > > > > > > because of their social context,” said Rosenbaum. “They are > > > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > > > sexually experienced to begin with. Their friends are > > > > > > > > > engaging in less > > > > > > > > > risk behavior. Their parents also go to church and they are > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > choosing to go to church and to stay affiliated with > > > > > > > > > evangelical > > > > > > > > > Christianity.” > > > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, Rosenbaum believes her study shows that > > > > > > > > > “abstinence > > > > > > > > > promotion programs” are not a wise policy for the government > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > advance. “Adolescents who take virginity pledges are not less > > > > > > > > > sexually active than closely matched adolescents who do not > > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > pledges, but they are less likely to use birth control or > > > > > > > > > condoms,” > > > > > > > > > she said. “Clinicians should provide birth control > > > > > > > > > information to all > > > > > > > > > adolescents, especially abstinence-only sex education > > > > > > > > > participants.” > > > > > > > > > > Robert Rector, senior research fellow on domestic policy at > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Heritage Foundation, told CNSNews.com that he has conducted > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > studies based on the same adolescent health survey data used > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > Pediatrics study and come to much different conclusions. > > > > > > > > > > “It was really quite extraordinary that you find in this > > > > > > > > > survey that > > > > > > > > > kids who took this very brief exposure to virginity pledges > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > dramatically better life outcomes compared to kids from the > > > > > > > > > same socio- > > > > > > > > > economic background,” said Rector. This included > > > > > > > > > “dramatically lower > > > > > > > > > rates of teen births, abortion rates down, teen sex down, out > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > wedlock births down, number of sexual partners down a third > > > > > > > > > to a half > > > > > > > > > compared to kids from a similar socio-economic backgrounds. > > > > > > > > > That’s > > > > > > > > > extraordinary.” > > > > > > > > > > Rector argues that most abstinence education programs don’t > > > > > > > > > include a > > > > > > > > > pledge and that what the data shows is that teens who delay > > > > > > > > > sex > > > > > > > > > because of their training and beliefs are at a distinct > > > > > > > > > advantage. > > > > > > > > > > “It’s not an abstinence versus non-abstinence message at > > > > > > > > > all,” Rector > > > > > > > > > told CNSNews.com. “It’s very clear that these kids that have > > > > > > > > > what I > > > > > > > > > call pro-abstinence, anti-permissive sex attitudes do > > > > > > > > > substantially > > > > > > > > > better in life. They are much more likely to abstain from sex > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > high school and teens who have abstained from sex through > > > > > > > > > high school > > > > > > > > > are twice as likely to graduate from college.” > > > > > > > > > > But some advocates for so-called comprehensive sex education > > > > > > > > > say that > > > > > > > > > participants in abstinence only programs who have sex usually > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > unprotected sex because of negative information about > > > > > > > > > contraceptives. > > > > > > > > > > “When (virginity) pledgers fell of the wagon, they fell of > > > > > > > > > hard,” Bill > > > > > > > > > Albert, chief program director for The National Campaign to > > > > > > > > > Prevent > > > > > > > > > Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, said in a U.S. News and World > > > > > > > > > Report > > > > > > > > > story. “What have we gained if we encourage young people only > > > > > > > > > to delay > > > > > > > > > sex until they are older, but when they do become sexually > > > > > > > > > active, > > > > > > > > > they don’t protect themselves or their partners?” > > > > > > > > > > “The idea that it has to be either a virginity pledge or > > > > > > > > > encouraging > > > > > > > > > teens to have sex is a false dichotomy,” Albert said. “There > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > public consensus in this country to encourage teens to delay > > > > > > > > > sex, but > > > > > > > > > also to provide them with contraception.” > > > > > > > > > > Rector said his studies support the importance of continuing > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > funding of abstinence education and that Rosenbaum’s study > > > > > > > > > does too. > > > > > > > > > > “What she’s really lobbying for is clearly an elimination of > > > > > > > > > abstinence teaching,” Rector said. “And so she’s saying, when > > > > > > > > > you look > > > > > > > > > at these kids that have pro-abstinence attitudes, those > > > > > > > > > pro-abstinence > > > > > > > > > attitudes provide dramatically positive results but they are > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > linked to the virginity pledge per se, therefore we should do > > > > > > > > > away > > > > > > > > > with those pro-abstinence attitudes.” > > > > > > > > > > “Somehow these kids sort of miraculously absorb those > > > > > > > > > messages and > > > > > > > > > values, so we should stop teaching those messages and > > > > > > > > > values,” Rector > > > > > > > > > said, “even though her data shows that all those kids that > > > > > > > > > have those > > > > > > > > > pro-abstinence attitudes do much better in life.” > > > > > > > > > > Rosenbaum said she thinks encouraging teens to delay sexual > > > > > > > > > activity > > > > > > > > > is a good public health policy, but that her work shows > > > > > > > > > virginity > > > > > > > > > pledges aren’t the way to reach that goal. > > > > > > > > > > “This group, whether or not they are pledgers, are starting > > > > > > > > > to have > > > > > > > > > sex at around 21, which is about four years later than the > > > > > > > > > average > > > > > > > > > American teen,” Rosenbaum told CNSNews.com. “Definitely, > > > > > > > > > though, the > > > > > > > > > social context created by the evangelical context and social > > > > > > > > > groups > > > > > > > > > does seem to cause > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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