I doubt the congress knew (as usual) just what they were voting for with this.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:37 AM, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't think the Obama sentence is actually part of the text, but it > is carefully planted in there and is rather suggestive, imo. > > On Jan 9, 9:33 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > I stand corrected. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > No, I didn't bring him into this. Embedded within the initial post is > > > this: "*Will Obama bring the end of prosperity?" > > > That's why I mentioned that Obama did not sign this into law. I do not > > > know how he voted on it. > > > > > On Jan 9, 9:20 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> But approved by a democratic senate, to which he still belongs. He did > > >> not sign the bill into law but how did he vote as a Senator?? > > > > >> You brought him into this wncs. It is yet another example of > > >> reactionary legislation that has run rampant in the last decade. > > > > >> On Jan 9, 7:31 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Please note that this law was signed BEFORE Obama takes office. > > > > >> > On Jan 9, 8:20 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > From: Travis > > >> > > Subject: Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands? > > >> > > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, > > > > >> > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542 > > > > >> > > *YOUR GOVERNMENT AT WORK > > >> > > *Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands? > > >> > > New law could force companies into ruin > > >> > > ------------------------------ > > >> > > Posted: January 08, 2009 > > >> > > 12:13 am Eastern > > > > >> > > By Chelsea Schilling > > >> > > (c) 2009 WorldNetDaily > > > > >> > > Jacobsen Books in Clinton, Wis. A new government regulation > scheduled to > > >> > > take effect next month has thousands of retailers, thrift stores > and small > > >> > > businesses< > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542#>worried > > >> > > they will be forced to permanently close their doors – and destroy > > >> > > their merchandise. > > >> > > The law is expected to have such a devastating impact that Feb. 10 > is now > > >> > > unofficially known as "National Bankruptcy > > >> > > Day<http://nationalbankruptcyday.com/>." > > > > >> > > Congress passed the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of > > >> > > 2008<http://www.cpsc.gov/cpsia.pdf>, > > >> > > or HR 4040, a retroactive rule mandating that all items sold for > use by > > >> > > children under 12 must be tested by an independent party for lead > and > > >> > > phthalates, which are chemicals used to make plastics more > pliable. > > >> > > All untested items, regardless of lead content, are to be declared > "banned > > >> > > hazardous products.'' The CPSC has already determined the law > applies to > > >> > > every children's item on shelves, not just to items made beginning > Feb. 10. > > >> > > The regulations could force thousands of businesses – especially > smaller > > >> > > ones that cannot afford the cost of lead testing – to throw away > truckloads > > >> > > of children's clothing, books, toys, furniture and other > children's items > > >> > > and even force them to close their doors. > > >> > > *Will Obama bring the end of prosperity? Get the book that shows > how higher > > >> > > taxes will doom the economy – if we let it > > >> > > happen.*<http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2511> > > >> > > *Children's books* > > >> > > Valerie Jacobsen and her husband, Paul, support their family of 13 > by > > >> > > selling literature at Jacobsen Books in Clinton, Wis. Her family > has > > >> > > contracts with local libraries to buy and sell overstocked books – > an > > >> > > arrangement that draws income for both parties. > > >> > > However, Jacobsen told WND that lead testing is estimated to cost > $100 to > > >> > > $400 for each of her used children's books because she does not > buy in bulk, > > >> > > and each batch of merchandise is required to be tested. > > >> > > "There's a big difference between me and Wal-Mart or Toys 'R' Us," > she said. > > >> > > "They'll have a batch of 50,000. Everything I have is a batch of > one because > > >> > > I don't know its history. I'm looking at a testing cost of about > $1.2 > > >> > > million. I would normally sell my full inventory of all children's > products > > >> > > for probably $15,000. So, it's effectively a ban." > > > > >> > > Valerie Jacobsen > > >> > > The Consumer Product Safety Commission states that lead testing > requirements > > >> > > apply to children's books, cassettes and CDs, printed game boards, > posters > > >> > > and other printed goods used for children's education. While it > does claim > > >> > > some printing inks will be exempt, paper, cardboard, bindings, > glues, > > >> > > laminates and other inks are still subject to regulation and > require > > >> > > testing. > > >> > > Jacobsen said that unless the new law is repealed or substantially > modified, > > >> > > it could devastate her family business. > > >> > > "I don't want to stop selling children's books on Feb. 9," she > said. "I need > > >> > > that income. We provide a lot of reading for a lot of little kids. > I went > > >> > > into this business because I thought that books were good for > children's > > >> > > mental development. That opinion hasn't changed. And the > government's ruling > > >> > > is essentially saying they're hazardous for children's mental > development > > >> > > because they might contain lead. We just have no evidence that > they do." > > >> > > *Children's second-hand clothing* > > >> > > Jacobsen said she often shops at second-hand stores for her 11 > children > > >> > > because she can buy quality clothing at low prices. > > >> > > "Over the years I have always tried to make the most of our money, > so we'll > > >> > > go to Goodwill," she said. "To be honest, I'd rather go to > Goodwill and get > > >> > > a brand-name item that's hardly been worn and pay $3.99 for it > than to go to > > >> > > Wal-Mart and pay $13.99 for something that in six weeks from now > is not > > >> > > going to worth anything." > > >> > > But now some thrift and consignment stores are in a panic over the > new > > >> > > regulation because it extends to children's clothing, shoes and > other items > > >> > > as well. > > >> > > Cindy Retmier owns a consignment store called Jordan's Closet in > El Dorado > > >> > > Hills, Calif. She told KXTV News 10 that the law could close her > business. > > >> > > "[W]e've been passing kids clothing down for centuries," she said. > "Now all > > >> > > of sudden you can't do it because there might be too much lead in > one item > > >> > > out of a thousand? I mean it's ridiculous they've taken it to the > extent > > >> > > they've taken it right now." > > > > >> > > Goodwill > > >> > > She estimates testing for each of her clothing articles to run > between $300 > > >> > > and $1,500. The Consumer Product Safety Commission said it may > consider > > >> > > exempting clothing and toys made from natural materials such as > wool or > > >> > > wood, but paint and dyes on the products are still required to be > tested. > > >> > > "We only sell stuff for an average of $10 so, of course that > doesn't make > > >> > > sense," Ritmier said. > > >> > > Even Goodwill Industries told the station it may be forced to stop > selling > > >> > > clothing and other children's items if testing is too expensive. > The move > > >> > > could affect consumers who donate items for tax write-offs if the > stores are > > >> > > not able to sell them. > > >> > > "A huge hit for us and a huge hit for consumers that are trying to > save a > > >> > > dollar in this economy," Goodwill's Mark Klingler told KXTV. > "We'll have to > > >> > > analyze it. It may involve not selling if we can't realistically > test > > >> > > everything." > > >> > > Likewise, Shauna Sloan, founder of the Salt Lake City-based Kid to > Kid > > >> > > Franchise, which sells used children's clothing in 75 stores > across the > > >> > > country, told the Los Angeles Times his business could end. > > >> > > "We will have to lock our doors and file for bankruptcy," he said. > > >> > > *Small toy businesses* > > >> > > All children's toys and furniture also fall under strict > requirements for > > >> > > independent lead and phthalate testing. Some small toy businesses > say lead > > >> > > testing alone costs more than $4,000 per item – a price some say > only large > > >> > > companies like Mattel and Fisher Price can afford to pay. > > >> > > "The only people who can do that now are the ones who actually put > this > > >> > > scare into effect and actually caused the problem," Amy Evan's, > owner of > > >> > > Baby's Boutique in Chico, Calif., told CBS' KHSL. > > >> > > *Home-based and small businesses* > > >> > > Shelsie Hall told KXTV she makes > > >> > > hair< > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542#>bows > > >> > > and jewelry for children and sells them online to support her > family. > > >> > > Now her small business< > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542#>is > > >> > > threatened by the measure because those products must be tested. > > >> > > "[M]y items sell for $4 to $10 and I make a lot of different > things. So I > > >> > > couldn't just test one; I would have to test every item," she > said. > > >> > > One blogger who identifies herself as "Tina" has a home-based > business > > >> > > making and selling cloth diapers online. She said a U.S. lab > quoted a price > > >> > > of $75 to test each component of her diapers. > > >> > > "I have at least two different fabrics, thread, snaps and elastic > in a > > >> > > diaper," she wrote. "$375 to test each different combination of > > >> > > fabrics/snaps/thread/size combinations? That is insane." > > >> > > She continued, "I am but one of many micro-manufacturers who will > be forced > > >> > > to give up the American dream of owning my own business because of > this > > >> > > legislation." > > >> > > Tina said retailers purchase inventory with loans secured by the > value of > > >> > > that inventory. > > >> > > "What happens to these lenders and retailers when the value of > that > > >> > > inventory goes to zero?" she asked. "It is conceivable, at least > to me, that > > >> > > retailers will be the next group in front of Congress asking for a > bailout." > > > > >> > > The act's broad wording could extend to children's items sold on > eBay, > > >> > > Craig's List, Amazon. Critics also say landfills will be hit hard > if stores, > > >> > > distributors and families simply throw their untested items away > rather than > > >> > > face prosecution. And new clothing, toys, furniture and books at > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- *~@):~{> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
